Alicia Castro, former ambassador of Kirchner, said the dictator Nicolás Maduro was the victim of a "grotesque blow unleashed by the United States".

"I do not doubt that it's a grotesque coup fanned by the United StatesThis is how Alicia Castro defined the political situation in Venezuela after the recognition by the government of Donald Trump – as well as Mauricio Macri – of opposition leader Juan Guaidó as interim president.

The former ambbadador of Kirchnerism in Venezuela between 2006 and 2011 explained in the program of Luis Novaresio: I must say, that "this is the first time" that a North American Vice President (Mike Pence) "comes out on social networks to make a speech so that the people and the armed forces rise up against (Nicolás Maduro)".

In the same vein, last week, the group of deputies from the Front for the victory had come out in defense of the regime of Maduro ensuring that the Bolivarian leader is a victim of "an attempted coup d'etat"

After these definitions, the former Venezuelan political prisoner Marcelo CrovatoAlso present in the study, he recounted how he took advantage of the guards' failures that kept him under surveillance to escape the border and leave the country.

As he explained, Guaidó's self-proclamation is constitutional because the elections they dedicated to Maduro were illegitimate. "The elections were not valid because they were requested by a non-competent body," said the lawyer, who also claimed that opposition leaders had been imprisoned in Venezuela.

"On what principle of law do you rely on the fact that a deputy, who has never been a candidate, has never presented his project or obtained a single vote, proclaims himself president?", Replied Castro ironically.

Crovato read an article of the Constitution of his country and cited as an example: "If the president's plane crushes, he is obliged to badume the presidency of the Assembly."

After this first exchange, the pilot of the program he asked Alicia Castro when he saw Maduro as a democratic leader. The former head of Kirchner avoided giving a direct answer and said that "it is not" to discuss Maduro but "the intervention in other states".

"There is no social or political humanitarian crisis that can be solved by a coup d'etat," he summed up.

However, Novaresio insisted on the same point: "But is it a dictatorship?" Once again, Castro avoided defining himself and argues that it is something that the Venezuelans themselves must "decide". As well He said "do not know" if there are political prisoners in this country.

Faced with these escapes, the former political prisoner reminded him that during the last Argentine military dictatorship, other countries were solicited. "Should we have let the military kill them all or help them, we'd better not get involved and kill them all, do you think?"

Upset, the Venezuelan attacked: "If you like dictatorships, I congratulate you, I do not like them. If you defend dictatorships, what can we expect? "

Castro simply clarified that his position was defend "the self-determination of peoples".

The discussion continued for several minutes without reaching a consensus on the best way to resolve the serious political, economic and social crisis in the Caribbean country.