The Vice President of Brazil about Nicolás Maduro: "You have to be patient, no one is waiting for the fall of the Berlin Wall and he fell"

In a courtyard of the Colombian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Vice President of Brazil, Hamilton Mourao, agreed to share his point of view on the US position on the crisis in Venezuela, on the role that China and Russia can play to ensure Nicolás Maduro's downfall and on the action that the United Nations United Nations should National Security With Vice President Mourao was also the Brazilian Chancellor Ernesto Araújo, who also agreed to speak with Infobae on the Lima group summit and the influence of the United States on the political stability of the populist regime.

"It takes patience and resilience, no one expects the fall of the Berlin Wall, it has fallen a little more and things will be repaired"badured Mourao before the official lunch hosted by Colombian President Ivan Duque to members of the Lima group.

– Is there room for a military solution if diplomacy fails?
-Do not bet on a military solution …

– Do you include "nobody" in the White House? – Insobae insisted.
– I pay particular attention to the statements of President Trump and what Vice President Pence said: he called the armed forces to reason, so that they remain on the side of the democracy …

– Do you think the Lima group can condition a unilateral strategy of determined military invasion at the White House?
-The Group does not think this is possible. I do not think the White House is betting on a military solution for Maduro.

– Given the influence of China and Russia, do not you think that it is possible to add these two countries to a different negotiating table?
-In my vision, China seeks to receive what Venezuela needs. And I think China has a very clear conception that Maduro will not pay them. And I know who will pay ..

– Who will pay China?
– President Guaidó …

-And Russia, what will it do?
-With Russia, the distance is very large. Russia does not think it can consolidate power in the region.

– Is it possible to use the United Nations Security Council, baduming that Russia and China are key members because of their veto power?
Yes I think we need to put pressure on the Security Council.

While Mourao talked with InfobaeForeign Minister Araújo followed the conversation with his advisers. In conclusion, Araújo agreed to join the dialogue on Venezuela in the Colombian Foreign Ministry's court.

– Do you think it is possible that a new diplomatic corps can be opened by adding the United Nations through the Security Council?
-We must explore all the diplomatic channels, because we are convinced that the continuity of Maduro's power is a security problem. It is therefore appropriate that the situation of Maduro be addressed in the Security Council.

– The declaration of the Lima group, which excludes the use of force to resolve the crisis in Venezuela, conditions the strategy of the White House which, until now, did not exclude the military invasion which was to to reach Maduro?
-The Lima Group has a very clear mission to create diplomatic pressure. We are talking to the United States, but there is no coordination. The United States joins the Lima group, but they do not belong to it. And for the Lima group, the solution is peaceful.

– How to include Uruguay and Mexico, which are part of the Lima group, without signing the declaration?
-You must accept that there is only one legitimate government in Venezuela …

-It will not happen …
-No, no.