"It can not be that Brazil is ruled by a madman …

Former Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, a prisoner in Curitiba since last April, said Brazil was ruled by a madman, referring to President Jair Bolsonaro yesterday in his first interview since his arrest. last year. granted to the Folha newspapers of Sao Paulo in Brazil and El País in Spain.

Escorted by members of the security forces, Lula entered a small auditorium of the Federal Police headquarters in Curitiba, in the state of Paraná, dressed in jeans, a jacket and a coat of arms. sneakers. Once inside, he approached reporters to greet them with a hug and then sat four meters away from them with the strict ban to return.

In two hours and ten minutes of conversation, the former president talked about his days in prison, the death of his grandson, the government of Jair Bolsonaro, the corruption charges he faces and the possibility of not to leave again. his room at the headquarters of the Federal Police. "I have no problem," he told the press about a possible future in this country. "I am sure that I sleep all day with my conscience, and that the lawyer Dallagnol does not sleep and that the Minister of Justice and former judge Sergio Moro does not sleep either," he said. declared. "I know very well what place the story has in store for me, and I also know who will be in the dumpster," he said in a new reference to former Judge Moro, who said: 39, sentenced for alleged corruption in the investigation of Lava Jato. "I reaffirm my innocence, proven by various actions," he badured, before launching again against the former judge and now Minister of Justice: "Moro does not survive in politics".

Bolsonaro also avoided Lula's criticism. "Either he builds a solid party or it does not last," he said. He also referred to the Brazilian elite and asked for self-criticism: "We will make a general self-criticism in this country because it can not be that Brazil is ruled by this crazy, the country does not do not deserve it and above all the people do not deserve it, "he said. He went on to talk about how the press treated him in terms of media coverage of what the current president is doing and saying. "Imagine if the Bolsonaro militia were friends of my family?", He questioned, referring to the fact that the son of the president, Flávio Bolsonaro (PSL-RJ), had employed family members of his family. a militiaman with problems with justice in his office when he was deputy of Rio de Janeiro.

While he was serious throughout the interview, Lula burst into tears when talking about his grandson, Arthur Araujo Lula da Silva, who died on March 1 from a bacterium. "Sometimes I think it would be easier for me to die instead of him, because I lived for 73 years, I could die and let my net live," he said enthusiastically. . The former president meanwhile said that today Brazil has the lowest level of foreign policy that it has ever seen. He added, jokingly, that his former foreign minister, Celso Amorim, had a debt to the current Foreign Minister, Ernesto Araújo, who had decided to make a career at Itamaraty.

He also referred to former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso (PSDB). "He could have a role of greatness and respect for himself, not for me."

Lula was found guilty of money laundering and corruption in the Lava Jato case, chaired by Moro. Since last April, he has spent his days in Curitiba prison, but on Tuesday the Supreme Court of Justice reduced his sentence and paved the way for Lula's house arrest from September. Two weeks ago, he received for the first time permission to grant an interview, a right that denied him justice since the day of his incarceration.