Frédéric Martel, author of "Sodoma": "Monsignor Pío Laghi was gay and frequented taxi drivers"

Sodom, power and scandal in the Vatican, is an X-ray of the decline of the Catholic Church. A four-year survey with hundreds of interviews on all continents shows the institution's hypocrisy about homobaduality. The author, journalist and French sociologist Frédéric Martel, has traveled the world to reveal that most priests and leading Catholic prelates are homobadualand that the serious institutional condemnation Sex and love between men is not screen.

Martel traveled to Buenos Aires during the writing of the book, published in 20 countries, to learn about the past of Pope Francis and now he's back to talk about his investigation. He quotes an expression used in Rome to describe those who show a public and private face: to be "of the parish" It means to be homobadual. There is a rule that is verified almost without exception: "The more a pro-gay prelate is less likely to be gay, the more homophobic he is, the more likely he is it's homobadual"

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is a nest of scholars with double life.

The journalist, himself a homobadual, is far from censuring the baduality of priests. What he condemns, it is the secret and lie. In the text, he unmasks through testimonies great crusaders against the alleged immorality of homobaduals and unveil the true orientations of ultraconservative bishops and cardinals. Some of them, persecutors of seminarians. Other consumers of male prostitution. There are some cases of well-trained couples of priests with men who love. And some who have come out of the closet and abandoned the church. The one who calls "police of souls", the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a kind of modern Inquisition, as Martel discovered, a nest of religious scholars with double life, that even look in the holy gospels references between lines legitimizing homobaduality. It also reveals that the Apostolic Nuncio in times of dictatorship, Mgr Pío Laghi, who played tennis during the dictatorship with Emilio Mbadera, was gay. According to Martel, Laghi would have A lot of bad and resort to boys taxis. "That's not the problem, it's an option that the church has to recognize, the problem is lying, and my book is a criticism of that," he warns.

Martel he was Catholic until age 12, but even though he no longer keeps faith, he recognizes the importance of the church as a cultural movement. In a hotel in San Telmo, he speaks fast English and has no hair on his tongue. "My goal was to write a good book, to explain to people what they do not understand," he says.

-Why is there a double standard within the church regarding homobaduality?

-C & # 39; is more than a double standard, it's schizophrenia. Pope Francis emphasizes, with these words, the schizophrenic double life, to certain cardinals. They are homophobic because they are homobaduals and that it's not a contradictionThis is a consequence. They want to hide their homobaduality. This must be understood to understand the Vatican.

– Instead of just hiding their homobaduality, they are openly fighting the rights of homobaduals …

-López Trujillo, the Mexican cardinal, enemy of homobaduality, who said that you should not use a condom, that it was impossible to have bad before marriage. a gay with a lot of loverswho harbaded the seminarians, who frequented the prostitutes that he beat. This type of schizophrenia can be an exception but it exists. Lopez Trujillo was very infute in the era of John Paul II and Benedict, who condemned homobaduality severely. Reality is worse than fiction.

The problem is not homobaduality, it is the repression of baduality.

– Does homobaduality influence Vatican politics?

-The consequence of the Vatican's policy on homobaduality is huge. Homobaduality is one of the key elements to understanding the functioning of the Church. Scandals, doctrine, many things are related to homobaduality. But the problem is not homobaduality, it is the repression of baduality, it is the baduality that is hidden. The lie, the double life.

– Is there a relationship between homobaduality and pedophilia, as some believe?

– I want to be very careful with that. There is no link between homobaduality and abuse, as abuse usually occurs in families and schools. The authors are heterobadual and the victims are girls or women. But when you look at badual abuse within the church, 80 to 85 percent of abuses are children or men or seminarians. Because? It is a complex issue. But the problem is not homobaduality, it is repression. Gay priests hate each other, they lie to others, but also to themselves. They are very immature. They do not understand what is baduality, they live it as in the 40s, 50s, they are 50 years behind. And the key element is the secret, the hiding, because they are not sure of their baduality. they have fear of the media, scandal, to have legal problems with the priests of his parish. So they protect them. And not because they are, they protect them because they are afraid to discover their own baduality. There is also blackmail.

The pope is in the middle of a civil war, the Vatican is at war.

– What is your opinion of Francisco?

– When I came for the first time, I did not like that. It was a Peronist, an Argentine Jesuit, an old man. One day, I was gay friendly, the next day anti-gay. One day, I wanted to fight against badual abuse, the next day, I protected the aggressors, even the convict.

-And what explanation is there?

-It is in full civil war. The Vatican he is at war. On one side, there are very conservative right-wing prelates, like Hector Aguer, obsessed with homobaduality, who are attacking the pope. There are many like him in other countries. The pope is in the middle of this battle. So sometimes he wants to defend gay people and then he changes. That's politics. This is also typical of the Jesuits. For them, things are half lies, half truth. That's why I did not like it. But when we understand the struggle in which we find ourselves, we develop affection for him. Because he is a victim of this confrontation. And I must say that I did not like Cardinal Bergoglio, but I love Pope Francis more. When he is with an individual gay person, Francisco is very kind, even if he had a hard position against equal marriage.