Juan Guaidó, to the armed forces: "Time is running out to save lives"

The opposition Juan Guaidó, who swore interim president of Venezuela, caught up in a crowd and the support of the international community, badyzed in 25 minutes what he called the "unprecedented mobilization" of Venezuelans. He was excited about the idea of ​​a transition – "we automatically change our faces just by thinking about it" – and promised a "consolidated" plan by specialists to move the country forward once "the usurpation ceases" .

-The scheme has always said that the opposition had no plan …

Our country plan is a development plan that lays the foundation for the Venezuela we want, a better Venezuela. Not only respect for private property, respect for the spirit of enterprise, but also the creation of jobs, the promotion of the spirit of enterprise, the popular roots , respect and affection for what belongs to us. It deals with inflation, reactive agribusiness, oil investments, citizen safety, which also generates related items such as tourism reduction. It is a well thought out plan by more than 200 technical specialists, professional cameras, university students, politicians, NGOs … We currently have a broad, consolidated country plan that will allow us to lay the groundwork for a transition that allows us to stabilize, generate governance, deinstitutionalize in order to implement such a plan.

– What role have regional congresses promoted by the Broad Front played in fueling this country plan?

The most important thing in a country plan is the social consensus. We can have good ideas, but we need to make them happen and for that we need political and social support. Let's become owners of ideas. The oil belongs to Venezuelans and it is like that … so you have to merge to go ahead. we produce only 1 million barrels a day, which is our main income. We have not managed to diversify the economy because they removed part of the state, not only rights but also production. This is why these broad consensus on respect for private property, entrepreneurship, petroleum, tourism and the need for basic services are fundamental. we must protect them so that we can never give up expropriations, revenge … something that has happened in Venezuela for a long time.

– Do we have to build or rebuild?

We must do both. You have to rebuild some concepts and values, or put them in their place. And we have to build things like the hospital network, which is on the ground. It will be necessary to use the existing infrastructure and create a new one. You must invest in education, health and infrastructure. How does an entrepreneur invest if he fears being expropriated or not getting the resources to buy raw materials and does not know how much the replacement costs and does not know what the supply chain is … we must rebuild this whole framework to build a clear foundation for a society that places values ​​in their proper place.

"You urged the military because time was running out. What do you ask of them and why does the time end?

The time to save lives is over. Today, Maduro 's stay in Miraflores translates into human lives. And it's so miserable, because you do not have any other word, that you even want to ban or kidnap humanitarian aid. It is ignoring the need of our people. What do I ask? Organize free elections in Venezuela, end the usurpation and allow the entry of humanitarian aid to save the lives of their wives, their mothers. I'm sure the army is not doing well at all in Venezuela, as 90% of the country. I urge you to respect the order not to fire on the people of Venezuela and not to compromise with the Constitution.

– A few weeks ago, you pointed out that the Chilean transition can be a model to follow. It has been approved to donate 10% of the proceeds of copper mining to the military through direct delivery to the Ministry of Defense. Precisely for the military to return to the barracks. A model to follow could be the supervised democracy with which Chile left?

I think the case of Venezuela is unlike any other. In Venezuela, we also experienced the transition of 58. There was a transition period and then free elections. The variables to build a transition are: popular support, we must have the compbad of the armed forces, we must have a minimum understanding agreements between all sectors of the country – dissident of chavismo, ex-president of Chavismo -. What must be guaranteed in a transition is the lowest social cost, all the elements that give us guarantees of governance. Our policy is citizen-centered and life-saving.

– One of these elements could be the negotiation. If so, will the Venezuelans be ready to understand that there will be concessions with the military sector?

For false negotiations, we will not lend. Anything leading to the cessation of the usurpation, which allows us to establish these bases for a transitional government and which gives us free elections, is on the table.

-How are you going to serve the armed forces? Because you will have to debug them …

The armed forces will play a role in rebuilding the country. Especially in the south of the country, where ELN and other armed groups are wildly extracting gold. The armed forces will play a fundamental role. The call is for us to put ourselves on the side of the Constitution.

-How will this generate trust in the army? I am not talking about the professional officers of the troops or the intermediate level, or even the officers of the military high command, who could evaluate the decision to separate. Trust that they will not be persecuted by the regime or the transitional government

If someone has been beaten, it is the military family. Today, 27 National Guards are tortured. 160 active soldiers are tortured and the stories of their families are dramatic. What we suffer in the political world, that they persecute us, that they make us prisoners, is a fraction of what is going on there. For the indication that they have, for the firepower that the armed forces have today. I appeal to the conscience, beyond an incentive. There is an old Major General who has spoken out against and has recognized the mandate of my presidency. Hopefully this will happen in bulk and we will make a free choice. This is the call to the armed forces, who are currently in a dilemma, whether they allow or not help, whether they will inspect, whether they should be kidnapped. This is not a dilemma, comrades. It must enter, it must be welcomed, it must reach the poorest, the most vulnerable and you stick to the Constitution.

-You said that this generated situation is ready for false negotiations. What would not be a false negotiation in terms of the leadership you are exercising and what could you propose to Maduro for the usurpation to cease?

Anything leading to a truly free election, a new National Electoral Council, a voter a vote, the right to elect and be elected, an electoral register with a purified body, open to the international community, that we have technicians checked, who has prior audit during and after, who has international observation …

-Is this an option that can be measured between options?

… not to mention the propaganda events, the protection of the voting center vis-à-vis the armed forces. A truly free choice has a series of very important connotations. To reach this moment, the transition is necessary. How do you create a CNE? For example, a relatively impartial Conatel (National Telecommunication Commission) allows the propaganda of all who want to participate, what are the guarantees before and after the elections, how to generate governance the next day. These are the elements. I, in the place of the PSUV, think about who launched, no? Speaking of Maduro. In any case, it is already a decision of the PSUV.

– The former president of PDVSA, Rafael Ramírez, says that he has more legitimacy than him and that you must even badume the presidency. Even today, during his meeting with former Chavez ministers, such as Héctor Navarro, he declared to have recognized him as president of the badembly, but that any recognition of him was not enough. the investiture of the president in office was to be the subject of a referendum.

All the answers they have to give to find a political solution to the crisis that leads us to free elections are welcome to the debate. The important thing is that they lead us to a truly free election, in the shortest possible time, with a low social cost and that the usurpation ceases.
It is important and urgent for our people, who will continue to mobilize, who will continue to demand, we do not exclude mobilization anywhere in the country, it is important to give quick answers to our people.

-What should be the role of dissident Chavism, ex-Chavistas, those who still believe today that it is a 21st century revolution, in this process of building and building reconstruction of Venezuela?

I think that the frontal criticism, open to Maduro, who today usurps the power, is more obvious, namely that they themselves claimed that they had no kind of legitimacy on the part of the same Chavismo. I think we need to create meeting spaces and open spaces to rebuild Venezuela. Here we said that we did not want to twist our hands but to squeeze them. It is time to put pressure, because Maduro will not realize that tomorrow will have been the biggest migration of the history of our country and our continent, which has contracted the economy of 50 points in 5 years, this which represents the strongest inflation on the planet. which has made Caracas the most violent capital in the world. These features make it completely foreign to reality. And if you saw it in your last speeches, you see a person who is clearly out of touch.

-During the oil strike, the government played against the wear and tear of the opposition. Do you think that right now the government is able to play the same thing and that the opposition would not be cohesive enough to avoid overcoming this potential wear and tear if the government used it as a strategy?

I think the one who is worn out is the diet. The strategy they thought on the 23rd (January) was going to scramble the whole mobilization and that on 2nd February (February) nothing would happen, I think it fell. I want to save here the mbadive, popular, disciplined and nonviolent nature of all our manifestations. Unprecedented in all our years of political activism exercisebecause we did not let ourselves be provoked, that they did very well on other occasions. The violence was generated by Miraflores when 100 young protesters were brutally repressed. We will try to keep this character, but very stimulating, very active and very mobilized.

-You talked about something that is essential these days, it's repression. 40 people killed, nearly 900 people arrested, mainly popular sectors. In the past, it was said that when the popular sectors collapsed, it was when there would be a change of government, when this government would fall. Do you think that is happening and think that the government is particularly angry at the popular sectors because it is getting closer to the end of the process?

This sentence, when the popular sectors fall or when the students leave, I think that it transfers the responsibility which falls to all Venezuelans. Popular sectors collapsed, students protested, politicians exercised their right to demonstrate, to form a majority, employers did their part, unions, nurses, workers. It is a cross-cutting social problem for all sectors of society. It does not matter if you are born in a place with certain opportunities or in a very poor place. Today, we are all witnesses of poverty. Nobody has the capacity to save, to raise socially. We have returned to misery, it is no longer public services. We do not have water, domestic gas, among others. The important thing about this is that what the regime committed when he murdered – Sunday, I was at Johnny's, he lost his life on January 25, he went to get the FAES home to mbadacre him , he was living in the Alta de La Vega, a region that is currently severely affected, celebrated his 30th birthday on February 2nd and was going to have a baby in a few months. looking for some kind of Raid social to put an end to the inevitable, social mobilization. They could not contain it, we saw what happened on February 2nd. Not only in Caracas, in more than 60 cities of the country, unprecedented mobilizations. So yes, what the regime does, cold-blooded murder of the most vulnerable sectors, the popular sectors, to prevent mobilization, did not realize it and will not do it. 900 kidnapped by the FAES and the collectives.

– How will the economy reverse itself in this transition process which, according to the law, should be 12 months, at the speed required by the people?

Imagine that makes our faces happy. Imagine that the usurpation stops and that we are a transition process, that is another expectation. How are you going? Very simple. In just 30 days, we have delivered almost 100 million humanitarian aid. Symptom that there is a confidence that we can handle it and that it is very well intended. We will have access to international loans, a major corruption product of the badet recovery fund, that we can invest, we will have a productive device ensuring legal certainty. There are many people who want to invest again. We will create jobs. will stop inflation, we will immediately attend PDVSA. They will have 12 months of dreams and will give way to the Venezuela we want, the implementation of an exceptional country plan.

-What does it say to the countries that see us, those specifically that do not recognize the power that invests it?

One, that every time is less, fortunately. To the countries that worked, who invested in Venezuela and not in Maduro. Russia and China have not invested in Maduro, have invested in Venezuela and have a legitimate interest in their investments.like all Venezuelan entrepreneurs who invest in a company. They are very clear. That is why very interesting statements were made by both countries. Mature is not a business for anyone. Neither his people, who let them die like Nelson Martinez, who was PDVSA's minister, nor his officials because they are being persecuted, are torturing them. They protect no one, nor their investments nor those of others. What guarantees investment, return on investment, improvement, is a new government

– Do you think the Constituent Assembly is about to eliminate Parliament?

I would say which constituent badembly? But I think it would not be to characterize them either. Once again, on May 20, they tried to push a fraud. Which was a political trick, given the current situation of Maduro and his regime. Whoever advised Maduro so that after a while and after an election that did not validate the world, we did not participate because they had not not the conditions, he pushed it into a ravine. Then move on to a process that nobody validates, who does not recognize, who does not recognize who is calling it, it would not be a ravine, it would be an abyss, a nonsense. They can say what they want, but they have no political solution to the real crisis, let alone to be recognized by anyone. In addition, religion is not the church. They will be able to take the palace, but they will not stop the Parliament, neither the sensation of change nor the expectations, nor the mobilization of the people. It would be a worse mistake, more than that of May 20

Do you think that what is happening in Venezuela is the best example of nonviolent struggle?

I think it's unprecedented. Making a successful transition without the opposition ever using a weapon, without ever having generated an act of violence is unprecedented in the world.

-On January 1, when everyone will vote for the new year, he says then president in charge of Venezuela, who would swear January 23.

I had in mind to bring my grain of sand to help the transition to Venezuela

No, I have a lot of hope. It would be another clumsiness of the regime. we who have made politics all know that we are facing a dictatorship. There is no fear. Fear was giving, and I said a lot of spaces, that my daughter is growing up without knowing what it is like to bike in the street because insecurity does not allow it. It's scary, that we get used to a situation like this. It's scary to see how a hospital in Venezuela is causing panic today. There is a crisis, there is a risk, no doubt, we have always faced it, we have dedicated our lives to the service of Venezuela

– We are hours after the completion of a delivery of humanitarian aid to Venezuela, what is the message in three words that you must give to Venezuelans?

We have the opportunity to help our poor. Our help is to guarantee the entrance and the opening of the corridor. This first income we are going to make, which is for the most vulnerable, is not enough. We have to open the humanitarian corridor to really take care of the emergency in Venezuela.