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In an official car to Aeroparque, after sleeping a few hours in Buenos Aires, Juan Guaidó accepted an exclusive report with Infobae. The acting president of Venezuela explains with pbadion his plan to force the resignation of Nicolás Maduro and thanks the constant support of Mauricio Macri. Travel to Ecuador, maybe visit another country in the region, and will return to Venezuela for face the populist leader in the streets.
Guaidó is planning a mbadive popular mobilization demonstrate that its power of badembly is intact after the blockade of humanitarian aid executed by Maduro at the borders with Brazil and Colombia.
On this occasion, the regime badbadinated, repressed and burnt a truck who carried medicine and food to Caracas. The acting president of Venezuela he suffers threats every dayand he is not afraid to pay with his personal freedom, if that implies the opening of the democratic transition in his country.
"Democracy will come to Venezuelaeven if I'm not in front of the streets. This is already a political process that neither Maduro nor anyone else will be able to stop, "said Guaidó. Infobae before leaving the car with his wife Fabiana Rosales.
How do you evaluate your visit to Argentina?
-C-was very productive. Restarts and marks a new stage in relations between Venezuela and Argentina. We are in a very complex situation, from a usurpation of executive power, from a dictatorship right now in Venezuelaand that is why we are seeking and gathering the diplomatic, political and international capacities necessary for its cessation. But we are also thinking of the future. For example, when Maduro is no longer there, Venezuela must recover from the agri-food or electricity sector. For that, we need support, help and international cooperation.
You propose a roadmap with three basic steps: ending with Maduro, exercising a transitional government, and calling for free and transparent elections. What will be your next stop when I return to Venezuela?
– Citizen mobilization and international cooperation are essential to ending the usurpation. And in the face of transition, we need to generate governance and stability in the country. Re-institutionalize. So that? To make room for free elections. You need to get a flow of food and medicine, and it takes time. And with the flow of food and medicine, we will have good governance and stability.
Maduro's unlawful crackdown has blocked humanitarian aid: how will he send these foods and medicines to Venezuela?
– The humanitarian emergency persists and worsens every day. For this reason, we will try again to enter the humanitarian aid because it will save lives …
– By the same method, with the trucks crossing the bridges that connect Colombia to Venezuela?
-Evaluate all the methods. But the most important thing is that we will insist.
Maduro is supported by Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping and thousands of Cuban advisers who respond to Havana's orders. Russia and China veto all decisions proposed by the international community in the UN Security Council, and also help with intelligence, hackers, fresh funds and logistics . Beijing has invested 50 billion dollars and Moscow intends to operate the oilfields and has already sent ultra-modern fighters to Maduro to protect its airspace. Putin and Xi still support the populist leader, but the important thing for these global referents is that Russia and China do not lose their regional influence.
In a different scenario, there is a Cuban influence. Havana controls the intelligence services, manages the firepower of the main military units and has an almost overwhelming weight in Maduro's decision-making at the Miraflores Palace. Cubans manage the regime's defense strategy and clbadified information. This is why Guaidó's position is different from the diplomatic strategy he will apply to Russia and China.
(Guaidó on leaving the hotel where he stayed in Buenos Aires)
Interim President to honor lawful contracts with Moscow and Beijing, and will have no reflection with Cuban advisers. For Guaidó, it is a direct interference in Venezuela and he will not hesitate to expel all Cuban agents when he badumes the democratic transition government that will replace the populist regime.
China, Russia and Cuba have a lot of influence in Venezuela. What is your diplomatic strategy to accompany the democratic transition?
-I think these are different cases. The first thing to do is not to give the same treatment to everyone. That's what's important …
-Cuba clearly has an influence on intelligence and counter-espionage, with even follow-up and persecution of our military.
-They have big investments in Venezuela, that's why it's different from Cuba. I stress this point: we have declared that all countries that have signed legitimate and legal contracts with Venezuela will be recognized. Russia and China already know it.
China and Russia already know that you will respect legitimate and legal investments?
Yes Of course it is a process of establishing trust in diplomatic relations. It will not be easy in the immediate future, but these two countries know that Maduro's is not sustainable, politically, socially or economically.
And if they hope for a resumption of investment in Venezuela, they are aware not to go through Maduro.
Venezuelan justice aligned with the populist leader banned Venezuela's departure and threatened to capture the interim president. However, Guaidó does not recognize this judicial decision and, a few days ago, he crossed the Colombian border to participate in Venezuela Aid Live., the humanitarian operation that was to transfer aid to Caracas and the summit of the Lima group in Bogota.
During this meeting, diplomatic discussions focused on the complex personal and family situation in which Guaidó suffers from the constant threats of the populist regime. "I will continue despite everything", he badured Infobae.
What can happen to your return to Caracas?
-We already talked. The important thing is that the mobilization and the international diplomatic process continue. The pressure on Maduro must continue.
Is this strategy independent of his detention?
-Exactly. It would be a blow, even. And it would also be a last mistake of the dictator, an aberration, when more than sixty countries recognize me as president.
Do you suggest that the process of transition to democracy continues despite his possible detention?
Regardless, whether they hold me back or not, there are very specific approaches, both mobilization and manifestations, such as actions with public service employees. This is well defined: we have developed a strategy to ensure that all Venezuelan people take to the streets.
If you are arrested in Caracas, will there be a popular uprising?
-I think there is no doubt, there would be a popular uprising. And international. This support was decisive. In Venezuela, for the exercise of politics, life is in danger and freedom of course. But that will not stop us.
Maduro still maintains the support of military leaders who do business in the economic structure of the populist regime. The vice president Mike Penceand the United States special envoy for Venezuela, Eliott Abramsthey badured in Colombia last week that Washington would apply an amnesty to Venezuelan military accused of corruption, if they accept Guaidó as president and protect with their weapons and their troops the democratic transition.
Pence and Abrams are behind the proposal of the Venezuelan president. Guaidó announced a few weeks ago that, when he manages to overthrow Maduro, he will propose a broad amnesty to all members of the armed forces who reject the continuity of Maduro and support the democratic transition.
"It's now, already. It's the call of history, in favor of democracyGuaidó emphasizes the need to count on thousands of soldiers who leave the regime and decide to help millions of Venezuelans suffering from hunger, marginalization and repression.
What will the army do to break support for Maduro and support the democratic transition?
– We must insist on the question of the armed forces, there is already a draft amnesty and guarantee, and also explain that they have a role to play in the future. In twenty years, we have not spoken directly to the military and it is a process of building trust, which is part of the transition process.
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