Nicolás Maduro answered all the questions: "I want to talk to Trump, face to face" – 15/02/2019

– Q: You defend yourself as a working-clbad defender in Venezuela, as a man who protects your interests and yet many of these people talk about their lack of food, their lack of medicine, the fact that the salary The national minimum only lasts a few days in this country. What do you say to that? Y. Are we witnessing the slow end of the Bolivarian revolution?

– "This is your vision, that of the Associated Press and American mediawho spearheaded a campaign, a real war against Venezuela and against the Bolivarian revolutionthis vision does not correspond to the truth with the reality of Venezuela. And in different situations that we have lived during 20 years of democratic and peaceful revolution, the Bolivarian revolution, we have been charged to demonstrate the opposite of the theses that you defend and which spread every day in the world, I appreciate this opportunity among millions of attacks, to be able to tell the truth about Venezuela, can light a light. That I am a defender of the working clbad, yes because I am a member of the working clbad, I am a defender of the trade unions, workers' movements which, in Venezuela, have been strengthened in their consciousness, in their organization, in the number of their unions. I am a defender of the rights to collective bargaining, to stability of employment. In Venezuela, there is absolute stability for the working clbad ".

"I am a defender of job creation, stable protected. we have an unemployment rate of about 6%, 5.6% with 60% protected jobs or more than 60%. Now we have a problem of hyperinflation, undoubtedly the product of a brutal economic war It has its origin in the United States of America, war, financial persecution, economic blockade, trade blockade and hyperinflation, we are fighting against market measures, with protective measure, between social protection and market, and I hope that this year 2019 we will be able to resolve the fight that we have between the real income of the workers I constantly occupy, every two months, I give increases, protect wages, protect workers' income. I hope that this year 2019 we will stabilize, we neutralize hyperinflation and we get a high level of stability of the worker's real wage protection. "

– P: Strategic lowering of such a huge hyperinflation. What is your strategy in the coming months?

– "We have an atypical problem, we have an exchange rate of the international currency of dollar which is fixed in Miami and fixed in Colombia and that has nothing to do with the internal rules of the economy, and this way with what we call the criminal dollar For three years, we attacked the value of the currency and the pricing system. This created a very serious disturbance: if social rights, public education, health, housing and job stability had not been conferred on citizens, this would have created a crisis of worrying magnitude. Today, we have a policy that, I hope, will stabilize, neutralize the damage caused by this type of change, which is corrected in Miami, but not in the domestic domestic market. Today we are creating an internal market with the private sector, the banks and the state that I hope will run continuously. During the first years of change, the process began to work. I hope that it will work permanently because they are subject to a lot of vulnerability and in this sense, the stabilization of the country's price system is one of the biggest challenges I would say today, the country's biggest challenge is to stabilize the trading system and the pricing system ".

– Q: Regarding your first point, I would say that there is no media agenda to undermine Venezuela and that we have journalists not only in the Associated Press but also in many media organizations that visit the country and talk to real people. They talk to them, take pictures, we interview them and reflect a different reality. They say that they can not eat and that they do not have the means to live, that their loved ones are dying. Do you think that he still has the support of these people when he talks about these economic goals?

– "I think that the vast majority of the country wants economic recovery, economic stability.According to polls, the vast majority of the country is very aware of the economic war they have waged against the country. Today, I tell you, Ian is more aware of the economic sanctions that President Donald Trump has openly opened against Venezuela. The sanctions to the oil company PDVSA, the expropriation of our oil company in the United States, Citgo, the persecution of trade. Look what's going on Ian. Beyond a sentence made or not, if we have support, the majority, if we do not have it or if we have it, beyond responding to this punctual part of your question, I will answer it. Today, the country is very aware of the damage caused by the sanctions, economic and financial persecutions that the US government has attacked against Venezuela. Pressure is being exerted so that in Venezuela ships that bring the drugs do not come to try to stop our food purchases., raw material, pressure; direct pressure from the White House so that no bank account from our account will work. And if I'm going to buy wheat or corn for example, which is necessary for the good functioning of the economy and the satisfaction of our population, they just freeze our accounts. We froze billions of dollars to buy drugs, food. But Venezuela is going from the front. I have security, not only perceptive, but also the security we have been living for 20 years, where we won 23 elections Ian in all seasons, we could say that we played, we won 23 leagues out of 25 with different differences, margins.

"If today I tell you that elections were held in Venezuela, how was it proposed to the National Assembly, the Parliament, the Bolivarian forces, to ensure security, we would have the majority vote of the people because there is a people who really suffer, fight, sacrifice themselves; but he is aware that no one has taken away his conscience. "

– Q: With the current diplomatic and political confrontation in the country. Do you say that he would be ready to call an election and he would be sure of his result?

– "The Bolivarian forces have a real livelihood, we have pbaded all the tests. We have 6,500,000 activists in the United Socialist Party of Venezuela. We have a mobilized force. Look at Ian, so do not show us in the US media every day in Venezuela there are great popular mobilizations in favor of the revolution. We have a strength, we have electoral experience, we have an electoral mechanism and there is a people with conscience and aggression. The aggression we suffered, President Donald Trump raised public awareness, strengthened nationalism and patriotism to much higher levels. what we have been through these 20 years. It would take a big surprise in an electoral process in Venezuela, the forces who think they can win an election at home would be surprised. A wave of patriotic nationalist conscience rose thanks to the badault of Donald Trump"

– P: What's stopping you from calling a choice? You seem very sure that you can win.

– "Well, I have proposed elections before Parliament, I am waiting for the establishment of a dialogue table with the opposition." The initiative of the Montevideo Mechanism, which brings together Mexico, Uruguay, Bolivia and the 14 Caribbean governments, convened us Set a date and propose early elections to Parliament as a first step so that, by electoral means, we can solve these problems, we, the Venezuelans, without the intervention of any foreign government ".

– P: Presidential elections. Would you be ready to make this bet?

– "Presidential elections have already taken place in Venezuelaaccording to the Constitution, they are every six years. The elections must be in 2018, Ian, on a proposal from the opposition, the date has been advanced. In the Dominican Republic, negotiations took place and we accepted the proposal of the opposition, because the elections were to take place in November and December and the opposition has already said no, the elections have already taken place and we accept that they take place in the first quarter and at the time of signing the document. early elections went, they denied his word, they denied his signature and then the elections were extended until May 20. Already the presidential election has taken place. This was done in accordance with the Constitution, institutions; So the policy of regime change that Donald Trump wants to impose on Latin America has no legal basis in our country, constitutional or anchor in international law. The only institution, Ian, not to be legitimized in those years is Parliament. And I think that we could direct a good option so that the Venezuelan people can express themselves freely and democratically. "

– P: So, What is your strategy to try to break the stalemate with Mr Guaidó? It is a country with two rival power centers. One of them is on the rise in terms of international support. You have an internal impetus, it could be prolonged over and over again and, without a doubt, it would affect the Venezuelan economy and the citizens it defends. What is your tactic in the weeks and months ahead?

– "The strategy is a job for the country, to govern the country, the strategy is peace. It expresses itself freely when they want to mobilize, to express themselves. do it. The strategy is justice, whether it is the justice that deals with these cases of insubordination to the Constitution, these cases of violation of the Constitution. Strategy and respect, get the respect of the world towards our country. That's the strategy. The strategy is to advance economic recovery. That's the strategy. Now, for 20 years, we have gone through many phases, I tell you, I have been able to experience them all. I am still young, I am only 56 years old and I have been able to experience all the circumstances, all since my election, all that I had and all that we got thanks to the popular vote. It must be said enough because they say I'm a dictator; but since I know myself, since 1999, I have been elected deputy by the vote of the neighborhoods where I worked; Then they elected me a member of the Constituent Assembly who drafted this constitution which was approved by popular vote, then they elected me deputy and I was president of the Venezuelan Parliament . Well, I was Chancellor of the legitimate and popular government of Commander Chávez, Vice President of the Republic, and then I was elected president by popular vote in 2013 and reelected in 2018.. So we think that the road is electoral, the path of non-interventionism. I would say to the public who listens to the people who listen to us: The way is to tell Donald Trump to take your hands to Venezuela. If Donald Trump, tomorrow decided not to get involved in the affairs of Venezuela, Venezuela would shineVenezuela would recover in an accelerated manner, Venezuela would find solutions in the political dialogue; but the infected hand of Donald Trump night in Venezuela. They made us a crisis and the extremist group that accompanies Donald Trump, imagine yourself, John Bolton, Eliott Abrams; the group of extremists who surrounds it, put him in a dead end. And it hurts Venezuela. I tell you from here, your Venezuelan hands, Donald Trump and Venezuela will green again, you will get your own way between us. "

– Q: And yet, his critics say that Venezuela's problems have roots prior to Donald Trump's administration for many years, this has been a gradual decline since the death of oilI think your critics also say that it's easy to blame external forces. Are not you responsible politically, economically from the current situation or do you regret it? Would you have done some things differently?

– "I'm really sorry and I have full responsibility for what does not work in the country, I have the maximum responsibility of being the President of the Republic, I have the maximum responsibility for the decline of PDVSA, the oil industry. It's my responsibility As you know, I've taken radical steps in recent months to arrest PDVSA leaders, sue them, punish some; But, no doubt, the recovery of PDVSA has taken time and is now made even more difficult by the persecution and the blocking measures taken by the US government. It is my responsibility, that is to say, I badume it fully, to have placed people who have broken confidence and shattered society. Now It is also my responsibility not to have launched a policy of accelerated recovery of the national productive process, do not realize it because policies have been implemented, but are often not fast enough to meet the changing needs that the country needs. It is true that we have made progress in social protection, Ian, we protect 6 million families, 80% of the Venezuelan family, 6 million, we bring the market to your home, we sell you a subsidized market to 6 millions In some cases, twice a month. It's a protection system and these 6 million families, we protect them with special links called homeland households, to the family and with extraordinary bonuses. In other words, we protect food, income; but hey, it served as a palliative. This is not the definitive solution. I hope that, baduming my responsibility for mistakes made, existing shortcomings, I hope that with the economic stimulus program, growth and prosperity 2019 is a year of real take-off, acceleration of the own economic recovery, despite the sanctions ".

– P:You fear for your political future considering the international pressure on you personally?

– "I'm not scared, I do not see myself as the center of everything, I do not have an ego, I'm not egocentric, I'm not vain, I'm not ambitious, I am not a tycoon; I'm not here to do business and make a rich company or several companies, I do not have these antivalores. I am fulfilling here a mission that Commander Chávez left me and that the people have entrusted to me. I do it with the utmost honesty, with the greatest sincerity and the greatest patriotic commitment, the greatest revolutionary commitment. So, I do not fear for myself, I never fear for myself, nor when they put me the bomb with the drone and exploded, I did not feel the minimum of fear. I am worried if, without the destiny of the country, the fate of our people, the fate of our children, fate and that makes me fill myself with energy, look in the morning, at dawn, the 39, afternoon. Every day, 365 days a year, I am full of a life-threatening anguish, a strength of destiny of the country because it is not Nicolás Maduro, it is not a man, I am circumstantial. It is a country project. We are now celebrating 200 years of a landmark historic speech by liberator Simón Bolívar, called "The Angostura Speech", where he founded Colombia, the great, all that we are forming today. : Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Ecuador. We were one country, Colombia, said the liberator. It's 200 years of a long struggle and all of us on the front line, Commander Hugo Chávez, our father, the liberator Simón Bolívar 200 years ago, and modestly today today Ithis worker who is here, who is hard-working, I feel deeply the man of the people, we are circumstantial. What matters is the destiny of the country and, hopefully, everything we do and everything I personally do, on a political level, serves to lay a solid foundation for the country to be a nation of peace. , so that the country takes the lead. the prosperity of the recovery and for the country to consolidate its national independence, its national pride; I hope the effort we make every day.

– Q: Describe a situation in which no individual is larger than the country. With this logic, would you consider for the greater good of Venezuela, within the framework of a political and diplomatic solution, give up power before the next elections?

– "I have a mandate, here the question is not a man, my mandate is to govern and the mandate is free democratic, in free elections, in an exemplary democracy, this conflict has , from afar, let me tell you, at least 200 years of conflict between the Monroe Doctrine, which is now chaired by Donald Trump, who tried to dominate and rule the entire continent, but Ian, let's examine the twentieth century in Latin America. How many invasions, how many coups d'etat, Guatemala 1954, Jacobo Árbenz made it come out, coup, American invasion. 50 years later, they said that it was wrong to think that Jacobo Árbenz was not a communist and that they took him out. 1964, Brazil, Joao Goulart, 50 years after his overthrow, with the participation of the United States Embbady, ​​the United States Government, the State Department apologizes to the Brazilian people for having made a mistake. Joao Goulart was not a communist. In 1973, Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger seized the Chilean economy to overthrow and kill President Salvador Allende. Over time impose the worst dictatorship that Latin America has ever known, Augusto Pinochet. It is a historic conflict between Latin America seeking its own path, its own model, its own independence, and an elite governing Washington, claiming to see us as its backyard. My struggle as a revolutionary, as a leader, as president and our people is that our right to our own political, economic and social model prevails, through democracy, through constitutional. That's the real battle we have. "

– P: Are you ready to contact the US Administration? He just spoke firmly against them and their goals, but would he be willing to invite them to the table in Venezuela? Perhaps Mr. Abrams or another representative, or do you have an intermediary to try to resolve this confrontation?

– "You are from the Associated Press, right, You need a scoop, well, I can tell you that with Mr. Eliott Abrams, we have already had two meetings in New York, our Chancellor met twice Eliott Abrams, the first two hours and the second three hours a few days ago. I invited Eliott Abrams to come to Venezuela, in private, in public, in secret or where he wants to meet, let him say when, where, how and I go. I know that Eliott Abrams is not very popular in American society. I know that he represents what is interventionism, arming, who was imprisoned for two years, who kidnapped him. I do not know where Donald Trump's government and he put it, well, they put him in charge of this mission, well, let's talk about it; but I can also tell you that we have permanent relations with the company manager who stayed in a special way, James Story, in Caracas. We are currently negotiating the opening of US offices of interest in Venezuela and a Venezuelan bureau of interest in Washington.. I hope it ends well. I want to establish offices of interest, I want relationships of respect, I tell you more, Ian, with President Donald Trump, we had indirect exchanges through people who took messages from him and who brought me messages. All this, I reveal it for the first time; but whenever I privately or publicly declare that we have a Trump-Mature relationship of dialogue, conversation, communication, respect and understanding, in Washington, they consider that Maduro is bankrupt, that Maduro is weak, that Maduro is going out, that Maduro wants to save himself. When I say that I believe in dialogue, in the word, they misunderstand and see weaknesses where there is none. When I say that I want to talk to Trump, face to face, and I know we can understand each other, I say it from the strength of a revolutionary who comes from all battles and who is capable of anything for his country; So these are the problems that arise when we say yes to the word, yes to dialogue, yes to peace, there they qualify and misunderstand what the political conditions really are. I would like to have respectful relations with the United States Government. I believe that the 21st century, Ian, can not be the century of gunboats, military invasions, coups d'etat. It can not be the century of interventionism, nor of the coupism, nor of the interventionism, nor of the invasions, nor of the war. You imagine a war in Venezuela, an invasion of the United States in Venezuela as Donald Trump said. You imagine the soldiers, the marines entering Venezuela. You imagine the Bolivarian soldiers fighting. You imagine the disaster and how Trump would fill his hands with blood for five generations. We would remember all her generations with the blood they poured here, you can imagine that. I do not want it to be, I want there to be another kind of relationship and I hope that someday, it will come true. "

– P: Could you share the tone or details of Donald Trump's last message for you? And when will you return one? And under what circumstances? What would you suggest later?

– "Indirect people on their own initiative. When I went to New York in September, he (Trump) declared himself alone. I flew Caracas-New York and learned through social networks that Trump had just stated that a meeting with Maduro was possible because these indirect methods were working. A Trump-Maduro meeting would have been very good. Perhaps he has heard about the reality of Venezuela. Because he is deceived and I am on all sources of intelligence, reports. All the people who warm his ear warm him with manipulations that lie, incite and play drums of war. Oh! because it is not they and their children who go to war, but the children of the workers, the workers, the humble people of the United States, the truth. This meeting would have been good and I never closed the door. Hopefully, with God's blessing, a miracle will be accomplished to rebuild relations and that the United States will cease to intervene in Venezuela's internal affairs. Venezuela would be a paradise if Donald Trump withdrew from our country. "

– Q: And what happens next with Juan Guaidó, who currently enjoys, at least publicly, the support of the United States and so many other countries? Where do you see your destination? You said you violated the Constitution. However, it has not been stopped. The prosecutors did not go looking for him, how do you see the evolution of his political career in the weeks to come?

– "Well, I do not have this power, to be able to see the future, what I believe is that it (Guaidó) is a circumstantial instrument set up by Embbady of the United States, if you heard how the members of the State Department refer to Juan Guaidó, almost designated as an agent of the United States in Venezuela, it's lamentable. He violated the constitution, several laws, he is major and knows his judicial responsibilities. In Venezuela, there is a judiciary, an attorney general's office and an attorney's office. We must respect the internal legality. Let's wait and see the results. In any case, I think the political process will leave us great lessons. Seventeen years ago, in April 2002, a coup d'etat took place in Venezuela. He supported, promoted and recognized, George Bush, George W. Bush, April 11 and 12, 2002, Captain Chávez was captured, kidnapped, they were going to kill him. And the first government in the world to recognize Pedro Carmona Estanga's self-proclaimed president at the time was the United States of America. In reality, the coup d'etat suffered a backlash, a peaceful national civil-military uprising that restored Commander Chávez and the Constitution the validity of power. What happened next to Pedro Carmona Estanga, l & # 39; oblivion. It was a circumstantial instrument, forgetfulness, exile, what will happen to this man, I do not know, hopefully. In any case, he has high responsibilities in the crimes and crimes that he is already committing continuously"

– Q: Would you accept it someday as part of a national reconciliation? direct discussions with him and an unthinkable form of shared power to put the interests of the country first?

– "I believe in the national dialogue with the inclusion of everything, we have had it many times, many times." In April 2014, in the midst of the insurgent violence and guarimbas of that time, I am here at the presidential palace. All the leaders entered the dialogue with all the opponents. In November, October, November, December 2016 also, in November and December 2017, in January and February 2018, we had several rounds. "

"We had the experience, I am ready for a dialogue where are all the opposition political parties, all the opposition leaders, all the political leaders and what they include in their delegations that they wish to include. Let's hope that the dialogue will prosper, that dialogue will flourish and that the drums of invasion, the drums of war will not continue to play. Here is a dilemma, a dichotomy to be solved, or dialogue, diplomacy, understanding and agreements, and peace, or the marines arrive and the war is imposed. Which of the two things do we want? It is very easy to respond to dialogue and peace and, through dialogue and peace, I am willing to make the necessary sacrifices. "

– Q: If you are looking to reduce tensions in the country, Why do not you allow humanitarian aid that is currently on the border with Colombia to enter? I heard that it was a Trojan horse and that it was a campaign to undermine it. Mais c’est un symbole tellement puissant pour le reste du monde quand ils voient des images de personnes affamées qui ont besoin de médicamentset drogue et nourriture bloqués à la frontière. De quoi avez-vous peur de laisser cette nourriture?

– "Je n'en ai pas peur, Je le dénonce simplement comme une campagne politique, partial, dans le cadre d'une guerre des médias; Le Venezuela n'est pas un pays de mendiants. Je le dis Que Donald Trump veut aider le Venezuela parce que cela n'aide pas les 40 millions de pauvres des États-Unis, les 40 millions de personnes qui ont faim aux États-Unis, pourquoi cela n’aide-t-il pas Porto Rico qui l’a abandonné et est allé jeter du papier hygiénique? Pourquoi cela n’aide-t-il pas vraiment son propre peuple, ceux qui n’ont pas de maison, ceux qui meurent de froid glacial. Donald Trump aidant le monde, vous l’imaginez, non, c’est une campagne médiatique, politique, pour humilier les Vénézuéliens. Le Venezuela doit résoudre ses problèmes par le travail, la production. Regardez, regardez vous, ces chiffres, ils nous ont gelé 30 000 millions de dollars, ils nous ont kidnappés. C’est l’argent du Venezuela en avoirs et en comptes à l’étranger et ils nous offrent 20 millions d'aide humanitaire. C’est une vérité démesurée qui montre simplement ce que cette opération est "

"Le Venezuela reçoit, Je vous dis aussi comme un scoop, le Venezuela reçoit une aide humanitaire permanente, une badistance technique de l'ONU auprès de l'ONU et chaque fois que nous allons recevoir plus de soutien pour garantir les médicaments, la nourriture du pays; mais dans un plan non politisé, dans un plan qui n'est pas un spectacle. Dans un plan qui repose sur le principe que le Venezuela paie sa nourriture, ses matières premières, ses médicaments. Les États-Unis nous recherchent, par exemple, un compte en Euroclear de 1 400 millions de dollars. Nous avions un grand lot de médicaments prêts à satisfaire le pays pendant un an et un grand lot de matières premières pour l’alimentation. Le compte a été gelé, les contrats ont été annulés et l'argent est déjà séquestré. Il nous pend, ils volent notre argent et puis il dit: attrapez ces miettes ici et faites un spectacle mondial. Venezuela con dignidad dice: no al show mundial, no. Quien quiera ayudar a Venezuela bienvenido, pero estamos en capacidad de pagar todo lo que necesitemos, no somos mendigos de nadie".

– P: ¿Cuáles serían sus órdenes el día en que se comience a traer esa ayuda? ¿Ordenarás a los militares que lo detengan? ¿Podría esta situación escalar? ¿Vale la pena por la comida y la medicina?

– "No bueno, muy sencillo cualquier importación o cualquier producto que tengan que entrar al país tiene que cumplir las normas. Cualquier avión, barco o cualquier camión que traiga cualquier producto tiene que cumplir las normas, pedir los permisos sanitarios. Esa es otra cosa que en la frontera de Colombia pusieron una comida podrida, contaminada, cancerígena. Hay un poco de gente intoxicada. Además de lo que te dije; pero cualquier camión que quiere entrar, cualquier barco, normalmente tiene que solicitar sus permisos legales y llegaría a puertos, aeropuertos, aduanas terrestres con los permisos legales. El que no solicite eso, sencillamente no puede entrar al país de manera pacífica y legal, no quieren.

"Al Show no la llames ayuda humanitaria. Yo creo que es bueno poner las cosas en su lugar. Eso no es ayuda humanitaria. Esos son las migajas del Show del gobierno de Estados Unidos para humillar a Venezuela".

"Migajas de un show, no ayudan humanamente a nadie y dañan a todo el que se pueda involucrar en esas pretendidas ayudas".

– P: Hablemos un poco sobre cómo financiarías la recuperación económica de tu país. Suena complicado dadas las sanciones actuales, especialmente en el petróleo. Sin embargo, ha tenido un representante en la India discutiendo nuevos mercados. ¿Podría decirnos cómo Venezuela podría vender su petróleo y si Asia es específicamente el destino que desea?

– "En lo fundamental sería Asia el destino. Nosotros tenemos muchos años ya construyendo la ruta de Asia y es una ruta exitosa y la ruta de Asia nos exige cada vez más volúmenes y cantidades de petróleo. Nosotros quisiéramos, sería nuestro deseo, producir petróleo con empresas estadounidenses en Venezuela, hemos hecho negociaciones con múltiples empresas de Estados Unidos y tienen las puertas abiertas a Venezuela, lo que pasa es que la secretaria del Tesoro, la OFAC y John Bolton los llaman y les prohíben venir a invertir y a producir petróleo en Venezuela. ¿Es eso libertad de comercio? ¿Es eso libertad de empresa? Yo invito a las empresas petroleras de Estados Unidos a venir a producir y quisiera Ian vender mucho más petróleo que el que vendíamos a Estados Unidos. Eso sí que no los paguen porque ahora pretendían que salieran los barcos petroleros hacia Estados Unidos y no nos iban a pagar. O sea que les regalamos el petróleo, robarnos el petróleo. Hasta dónde va a llegar la administración Trump en su locura, en su locura contra un país noble, pacífico, que quiere desarrollarse tranquilamente como Venezuela. Así que el mercado natural es Asia, era el mercado natural de Estados Unidos, nosotros mantenemos la puerta abierta para la inversión, para la producción y comercialización junto a empresas estadounidenses".

– P: ¿Qué pasa con el papel de Rusia? ¿Quieres ver un apoyo más enfático o algunas medidas concretas? ¿Cuál es actualmente la conversación entre usted y la administración de Vladimir Putin sobre el camino político hacia adelante?

– "Con Rusia mantenemos relaciones permanentes, diarias, con el presidente (Vladimir) Putin, buenas conversaciones, comunicaciones con el canciller (Serguei) Lavrov, con la Comisión Mixta. Tenemos una Comisión Mixta de Alto Nivel que preside un vicepresidente en Rusia y un vicepresidente nuestro en Venezuela. Tenemos un mapa de cooperación integral, por ejemplo, de Rusia, viene todo el trigo que Venezuela necesita para su normal desenvolvimiento; con Rusia tenemos una alianza militar poderosa para lo que es el sistema de armas defensivas del país, todo el sistema de armas defensivas del país en buena parte, desde que se decretó un bloqueo de hace años, cuando George Bush, de armas a Venezuela desde Estados Unidos, las hemos adquirido y se adquirieron en su momento en Rusia. Tenemos una buena relación en cuanto a inversión en petróleo, en gas, en petroquímica y una nueva inversión que va a llegar para el desarrollo del oro, es lo que te digo si con Rusia que es una superpotencia podemos tener buenas relaciones de respeto, de igualdad, de ganar, ganar; sí con China que es una superpotencia, la primera potencia económica del siglo XXI, podemos tener relaciones de respeto, de igualdad, de beneficio mutuo. ¿Por qué Estados Unidos quiere anteponerse en América Latina y vernos como patio trasero, por qué no es posible una relación de respeto en términos de igualdad, que los inversionistas actúen libremente en Venezuela, en Estados Unidos?. ¿Por qué la cohesión económica, la coerción económica, por qué la persecución económica es lo que tenemos que preguntarnos?. Este conflicto de Venezuela yo lo veo como un conflicto por Venezuela y por la humanidad. Aquí Ian, estamos hablando ahora febrero 2019 y lo recordarás por mucho tiempo, en Venezuela se está decidiendo el destino del derecho internacional para los próximos años. Es casi como una tercera guerra mundial que la vamos a decidir en paz. En Venezuela se está decidiendo el futuro de las relaciones pacíficas en el continente y en el mundo y el mundo debe entender que cómo se resuelve el tema venezolano será el resto de las relaciones del siglo XXI de América Latina con los Estados Unidos".

"Es muy importante el conflicto que está en pleno desarrollo y nosotros apostamos a la paz, a la diplomacia, al diálogo, a la superación a través de la palabra de los problemas".

– P: ¿Espera que Rusia aumente su influencia financiera y política en Venezuela durante esta fase? Debido a que otra forma de verlo es que nos estamos acercando a un enfrentamiento que se relaciona con las proporciones históricas de la Guerra Fría de los Estados Unidos que apoyan a un lado y Rusia a otro. ¿Ves un riesgo allí también?

– "Ya una nueva guerra fría se impuso, los criterios que esgrime el presidente Trump, los criterios de este extremista loco, llamado John Bolton, los criterios de todo ese equipo que ellos llaman el equipo Venezuela, son criterios de la Guerra Fría, inclusive todos los asesores de Trump vienen de la Guerra Fría, de los años 70, 80, tienen el mismo esquema estratégico, el mismo esquema mental. Ellos dicen mil cosas de Venezuela que todas son falsas y se las creen, se las creen. Ahora nosotros vamos a seguir teniendo buenas relaciones con Rusia, con China, con India, con Turquía, con Bielorrusia, con Irán, con los países de Europa, que tienen, nosotros tenemos aquí una migración grandísima de Europa más de un millón de migrantes entre españoles, italianos, portugueses. Tenemos una migración de más de un millón de árabes, entre sirios, libaneses palestinos; tenemos más de 5.800.000 colombianos. Nosotros vamos a seguir abiertos al mundo en el trabajo y espero que en algún punto del camino, más temprano que tarde, por la vía pacífica, por la vía civilizada y diplomática, con el apoyo de la opinión pública estadounidense, Venezuela y Estados Unidos nos podamos entender respetando nuestra independencia nuestra soberanía nuestro orgullo nacional, nuestra dignidad. Terminamos tan rápido. Bueno gracias. Muy bien gracias. Gracias".

Agencia AP.

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