Raúl Rosa: "Kirchnerism has made unlawful illegal tapping of Carrió, Duhalde and Lavagna illegal"

He was part of the Secretariat of Intelligence (SI). And now, more than ten years after his resignation from the agency, ex-spy Raúl Rosa denounces the fact that under the Kirchner government, Francisco "Paco" Larcher created and led a "special group" responsible for conducting "illegal wiretapping" without investigating "businessmen, officials, politicians and journalists".

A lawyer and intelligence officer, Rosa resigned from the IS on July 20, 2006 after 13 years of service and a stranger threatened to kill her daughter.

In an interview with
THE NATION, declared that she suffered internal persecution and denounced her in 2016 before Federal Judge Sergio Torres. The problems began after the detection of drug shipments in the Southern Winds, in 2004, by a suspicious route authorized by the transport secretary of the time.

Ricardo Jaime

. Rosa, 50, was a professor of constitutional law at the Catholic University of Salta and had joined the ex-SIDE in 1993. She worked at the Directorate of Judicial Observation (DOJ) and was liaised with the anti-terrorist unit of the Federal Police.

-What brought him to denounce his situation in court?

-In 2001, the Special Cases Division was created. It has given me the objective of providing information to those who could attack against the democratic order and then against drug trafficking. When Néstor Kirchner took office, orders were generated for the collection of information on political figures, judges, prosecutors, businessmen, governors, advisers, journalists …

– Was it legal?

-An absolutely illegal activity and contrary to the national law on intelligence 25.520.

– Who gave the order to change?

Secretary of Intelligence Héctor Icazuriaga and Under Secretary Francisco Larcher.

-What implications does this new survey have?

-The orders were daily. Within my division, there was another official of José Linares, head of the Department of Constitutional Order, a joke … I mentioned it in the complaint, ordering the constitution of files, of all these personalities, forming an illegal database of them. The activity of my division, drug trafficking, was a protective umbrella.

-These investigations involved street surveillance and illegal wiretapping?

-I do not know that it was like that, but they surely finished. With regard to illegal phone tapping, a strong rumor has been launched within the organization for the creation of a special group directly dependent on Larcher. The Judicial Observations Branch handled the wiretaps with a court order. This panel, without this court order. They were illegal spies.

– And to whom were these illegal plays made?

-A Elisa Carrió, Eduardo Duhalde, Roberto Lavagna, journalists like Marcelo Longobardi, others whom I do not remember, but who are in the cause, surely you too.

– With what purpose were they made? Did President Kirchner see them?

– clearly. It was an open secret that at six or seven-thirty in the afternoon, Larcher was going to Casa Rosada to give the President of the Nation an illegal hearing. The task group worked 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

– Is this team still working?

– Clearly, it does not work anymore.

– How did you get out of the body?

-As a photo of the nation's intelligence, I have nothing to regret. It's a journalistic cliché. I am not repentant During drug trafficking investigations, we detected and exploded the Southern Winds case during the cocaine shipment to Spain (Barajas).

– Did you have any problems?

-I was a representative of the SI in Sedronar (anti-drug secretary) and we broke the story in bi-monthly information exchange meetings with the different security forces. And this led the authorities of the agency to focus my division into an enemy. There, I started to suffer from work and personal persecution of all kinds.

-Have you previously reported shipments to the IS?

– Clearly, he reported. Authorities at the time, Alberto Mazzino, general manager of Analysis of the IS, or Graciela Palacios, director of internal badysis of the IS, have said that Larcher did not neither read nor pbaded through the paper chopper. In my opinion, Mazzino was the best state intelligence badyst of the last 30 years.

-Why did they say that the investigation was not progressing?

"Mazzino told me that Larcher had ordered him that I could no longer attend the Sedronar as a collaborator, but only as an observer – an absurd order as it hindered the fight against drug trafficking.

– And why this?

-Mazzino explained that, at his discretion, the maneuver we had detected belonged to some Kirchner government officials, including Ricardo Jaime, secretary of transport, who had poured fictitious money to the president of Kirchner. the nation. I did not know the false provenance of this money.

– And what is the data that triggered everything?

The most important pattern was the airway through which the drug entered. Tacna (Peru), Córdoba, Buenos Aires, Spain. The road was covered by SW, a state-subsidized airline.

– What was the point of the road?

– No commercial sense. This route was allocated by resolution of the Transport Secretariat to SW only and signed by Ricardo Jaime. Reasonableness only concerned drug trafficking.

– After that, what happened?

They started persecuting me, both personally and professionally. After a violent confrontation with Linares, I was moved from the head of the special cases division and they informed me that I was going to be sent to Trelew.

– You accepted the transfer?

-When I left this meeting, I took the elevator on May 25, a person I had never seen in the body of a dark suit and very expensive 80 meters; He approaches me in the ear and says: "You are Rosa, your daughter will be born with a bullet in the head". I was waiting for my family and the next day I submitted my resignation.