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BRASÍLIA – The future Minister of Human Rights,
Damares Alves
, has an aboriginal daughter, is pastor of Foursquare church and has been working as a counselor to the National Congress for more than 20 years, still close to the evangelical group.
Damares was
announced Thursday as minister of the new record
created: Women, family and human rights. In an interview with GLOBO, she said that men and women are not equal, that transbaduals must be inserted into the labor market and that same-bad marriage is an acquired right. He also stated that he was an advocate for indigenous peoples and that he would like to have the National Indian Foundation (Funai) under his tutelage. FUNAI is now part of the Ministry of Justice. The future Minister of the Civil House, Federal Deputy Onyx Lorenzoni (DEM-RS), said on Thursday that the foundation would be housed in the new ministry headed by Damares.
During a visit to the transitional cabinet last week, Damares was asked to take charge of a human rights organization and women, who still did not know whether they would be safe. it would be a department or not. She accepted the invitation after talking to her boss, Senator Magno Malta (PR-ES), who was not re-elected.
How did your activism for human rights unfold?
These are years on the road for the defense of childhood. At every moment of my life, I found a group of children more vulnerable than the other. I was born in Paraná, but I grew up between Sergipe and Bahia. In Aracaju, I started with street boys and girls around 1984. I was a teacher from a very young age. He had been in the clbadroom for fifteen years and was working in early childhood. Sometimes the student did not come because something had happened. "My brother is dead", "my brother is in prison." They were boys in the street. I spent some time in the streets of boys and girls, attending boys who prostituted themselves, sniffing glue.
And then?
I went to São Paulo to go to college. There, I continued to work, but I focused more on chemicals and less dependent women. At the end of 1987, I went to work with peasants and fishermen. I have a long history of intimacy and identification with their history. They are women who are suffering, who have been beaten by their husbands, beaten up as children and worked very early.
How did the aggression you suffered during your childhood?
I suffered badual violence at the age of six. From then on, as soon as I started working, I decided to defend the children, to protect the most vulnerable. I am an educator and pastor. In 1991, I became a lawyer and began using the right to seek protection of rights. It was my story until I came to the National Congress, where I came to do this behind the scenes with parliamentarians. I went to the streets to fight for boys, but we still did not have the status of the child and the teenager. I have therefore helped to develop and perfect this legislation. I thought that the Legislative Assembly could be a culture where I could help develop protective laws, punitive laws with those who have been badaulted. In the Legislative Assembly, I met Aboriginal children, who are a special cause for me, as well as gypsy children and traditional peoples.
Which church are you pastor?
I am a pastor of Foursquare church. My father is a Foursquare pastor and my church has ordained a pastor. I am a licensed worker, what the faithful call a shepherdess. But today, I am at the Baptist Church of Lagoinha. It is a church with incredible social work, in Brazil and around the world, and by identifying with the project, I ended up staying with this church.
What is your main banner for the ministry?
Despite all my activism, we realize that in society we have the "invisible". I would very much like to bring to the forefront of this story the human rights of the invisible, who are the gypsies, the woman by the river, the rubber tree, the sugar cane cutter, who sings the crab, which breaks the coconut, which harvests the acai. These women with callous hands are not honored and public policies do not always reach them. We have more than one million Gypsies in Brazil. These people are beautiful, they are incredible, they are invisible, they suffer from prejudice and discrimination.
And transbaduals?
It is essential to interact with the street-involved transvestite who prostitutes himself. Is it by choice or why not enter the job market? I would like to talk about it. I have found transvestites with extraordinary intelligence and a bruised body. The body in the street being wounded. Is it not time that we begin to see this being discriminated for so many years and ask ourselves: why is only prostitution for the transvestite? Why only this way, why not bring them to universities?
Are you in favor of legalizing prostitution?
No. bad does not make anyone worthy. I have no problem with the prostitute, but whoever consumes prostituted women for me is a predator. So, I really want to think of this prostitute as a human being who needs dignity. They suffer, they go down the street. He has no glamor, he has pain and suffering. All women are not "a beautiful woman". I'm in the street with them, I know what it's like to cry with them, to take a soup, a blanket. My dream is a world in which no one had to sell the body, the woman had a respected body.
What is your opinion on the debate on gender identity?
I have a very strong position with regard to gender theory. It's a boring theory, without scientific evidence. We must fight for equal civil rights between men and women. I do not want a woman who earns less than a man or who is deprived of a woman or who is buried alive to be a woman, like what is happening in Brazil. But men and women are not equal. And I'm sure of it. The woman is the woman, the man is the man. It is very bad to say that we are the same, because I can not carry a bag of cement in the back, and the man on my side can not do everything I do at the same time.
You are already facing criticism for claiming that a woman was born to be a mother.
But the woman was born to be a mother because she was born with a belly. On this planet Earth, the female is born with a uterus to generate. So I did not lie. The woman is born to be a mother. If she does not want to be a mother, it's her choice, but the woman is born to be a mother. It's so instinctive, human nature, that even those who do not want to be mothers will say "Pull, I could have been a mother". The vein then goes forward, claiming that the woman has the right not to want to be a mother. I agree, but it's a struggle against human nature. The biological rules are the biological rules, which forced us to generate the bad, uterine, ovarian and fallopian tubes.
The role of the woman is to procreate and the man to earn bread?
It is a human race. The man is protective, provider, caregiver. But the human race has changed. So we fight nature. Civilization is changing and we have to go to the labor market, but I would like to have a world where women would only work if they wanted to. But we do not have this option today, we have to work to survive. Some are happy to work, me for example. I am privileged because I am very happy with what I am doing. But not everyone is happy.
Is not this true for women and men?
Women and men. But I understand that the ideal for a woman would be, when she will have a child, to choose if she wants to stay at home with her baby for four years. But there is no way. We are very busy, the competition on the job market is very strong. We have to help with support, help her husband. We are mainly heads of households. I see mothers on maternity leave suffering from what is happening at work. It's painful.
Women are discriminated against
Yes. Brazil is a country where women suffer, every 11 minutes, a woman is raped, every 7 years she is a victim of domestic violence, and the details are the official figures. And the woman who does not denounce, who does not speak? It's a country that hurts women and I dream of this change.
How to fight against violence against women?
We are going to have to make a cultural revolution. All boys will have to give flowers to girls in schools, to understand that we are not equal. When the gender theory comes into the clbad and says that everyone is equal and that there is no difference between boy and girl, girls can get bored because they are identical to boys. We are fragile, but we are very special, we do things that they can not do. Protect children, pregnant women, and show that a country that has a woman in the presidency of the republic has everything to be the best country in the world for women.
What is your position on same-bad marriage?
This is a nearly definite problem in Brazil. It's an achievement on their part. Conquered rights are no longer discussed. So for me it's a question won, so much so that the gay movement does not even have it as an agenda anymore, it's an outdated issue, a guaranteed civil right.
The Bolsonaro government ministers apparently do not seem to want to stay at Funai. Would you like to hold the organ?
I would fight for Funai. Indian is not a problem. Funai is not a problem, that's how we treat the indigenist politics. I am troubled by the proposal to place the Indians in the Ministry of Agriculture. Half of our Indians are already in urban areas. What will the Ministry of Agriculture with the Indian University do? It escapes the allocation of the Ministry of Agriculture. Our Indians are already on the Internet, have a critical sense, participate. We must therefore prepare the natives for a new moment of interaction. Farm technicians would not have this ability. President Bolsonaro expresses himself very well when he says that the Indian is not an animal.
(Minister Lorenzoni stated that FUNAI would be installed in the Ministry of Women, Family and Human Rights.)
Do you support a relaxation of the rules relating to aboriginal reserves?
The problem is that when you talk about Indian, you only think about the land. This is not there. But yes, I am in favor that the Indians can have a sustainable management of their land, there are excellent programs of aquaculture, shrimp. For your survival, yes. Another issue concerns mining in indigenous areas, is being discussed in the National Congress. But I'm not going to delineate a huge area and leave the Indian alone, alone, without help in subsistence, unattended. Who wants to stay in the woods, stays, who wants to stay in town, can stay. But if you ask me which way I am, I will always be on the Indian side. Always.
Is your daughter Indian?
My daughter is Indian, from the Kamayurá people. She has been with me since I was six years old. This is a beautiful girl, a princess who is preparing for the university. He is 20 years old today. If she was born from my belly, she did not really look like me. I still receive her biological family in Brasilia, we live well and she maintains her cultural identity if she paints, dances, sings, eats ants. I am divorced He will take over the ministry a new family configuration. I am a divorced woman, mother of an adopted daughter. These families exist and are there in Brazil.
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