Beastie Boys: Adam Horovitz and Mike Diamond on Manhood

Anyone who wants to talk about his life with Michael Diamond (aka Mike D) and Adam Horovitz (Ad-Rock), the two remaining Beastie Boys after the death of Adam Yauch (MCA), should not bother. When the conversation is about to begin, both are involved in plans for a dog movie, which they would like to shoot.

Adam Horovitz: A Beagle who is a lawyer who solves difficult cases! "The dog lawyer"It's great, or a dog as a fashionable fashion designer's badistant or the dog is the fashion designer!"The Beagle wears Prada"

SPIEGEL ONLINE: There is also a pretty dog ​​scene in your book: they describe how Adam Yauch's dog, Samson, stole an entire pizza on the table and ate it while the family was chasing it around. the House. You put the group's story at the shelter of many polaroids of the situation, as if things and your career had just happened.

Michael Diamond: As a group, we were really not very good at doing projects. It was one of Yauch's many talents: he was always able to break the brake in the greatest chaos and say: Stop! We do this now! Our career was a series of completely random news, aligned on a timeline.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Together, this news is almost an educational novel: Over the years, you have embodied very different concepts of masculinity. At first, they staged themselves as testo-bolzende Prolls and threw the drummer Kate Schellenbach out of the group because they did not fit that picture.

Diamonds: Years later, at times like "Check Your Head", we are happily friends again. it meant a lot to us because we had behaved in a really stupid way. Kate tells the story in a separate chapter from her point of view, which was important to us.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: In the book, you apologize to her and other women for whom you have played badly – in different places, that voice of reason that moves things in retrospect is just spinning.

Horovitz: We often write this sentence: It seemed funny at the timeWe did a lot of stupid things, but then we really thought it was funny. It's a gift to be able to publicly reflect that now. It would have been easier to reconstruct the story and leave things alone.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: But it would have been difficult to keep quiet about the giant penis.

Room service brings apple pie with vanilla ice cream. Michael Diamond recounts his cure of celery juice. Every morning he drinks half a liter. It is said that one quickly becomes addicted to it, because one then feels a real boost of energy. His advice: a little lemon and cucumber, so it does not taste so disgusting.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: How did you get the idea of ​​mounting a huge inflatable bad piece hydraulically during your first tour?

Horovitz: Our manager asked us: What do you want on stage? A swing or stairs – you can have what you want. Of course, the first thing that came to our mind was that we needed Dick in a box need. As a punishment, we are now paying 31 years of storage fees.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Do you still keep it?

Horovitz: I even visited the penis a few years ago in his New Jersey camp. People who work there take it every two or three months when they organize a party and need a little decoration.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: You write in your book that you were trapped by stereotypes of masculinity that you were trying to satirize.

Horovitz: "(You have to fight for your right (partying!)" Was actually just a joke, about some type of person, about the attitudes of Rockstar – six months later, and suddenly we are identical.

Diamonds: Suddenly, you look at your audience and it's made up of the people you originally wanted to make fun of. And you think: oh-oh.

Horovitz: During our first appearance in Berlin in 1987, we had the idea to go on stage in silk bathrobes, accompanied by the film music "Rocky". Unfortunately, three quarters of the audience consisted of American soldiers stationed in Berlin and they applauded the irony and excitement of our Rocky Klamauks. We wanted to finish ugly americans to make fun of – and suddenly we were those ugly Americans.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: How did you leave this role?

Diamonds: We felt a bit like children playing something and then realize: Oh, actually, it's not fun at all. We noticed that some things were going wrong here.

Horovitz: We felt that the group was threatening to collapse. We moved from New York to Los Angeles, reminding ourselves that the Beastie Boys are focused on how we treat each other. And now we wanted to take responsibility for what record covers and music videos looked like.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: The three of them have moved to a villa you beautifully describe the decor in the book comparing it to the coffee of the series "Quincy".

Horovitz: I love "Quincy"! Do you know "Detective Rockford – call enough?" It's great too. And of course "Columbo". He also has a dog. In truth, the dog solves all cases.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: His stay in Los Angeles looks like an endless costume party in the book. You found this huge fund of …

Horovitz: Sorry, I have to say it: there is a fantastic drawing on a dog, Hong Kong Phooey. He is not a lawyer, but he also fights crimes.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Your fratboy attitude had left you in New York. What kind of man did you represent in L.A.?

Horovitz: Pothead's boyfriend, who is a bit silly, but very funny. But it's pretty stupid too, and he kisses far too much.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: In 1994, you published a feminist mini-statement on "Ill Communication". The song "Sure Shot" reads: "I mean a little something that is long overdue: the lack of respect towards women must be overcome." Have you already become enlightened men?

Horovitz: We had no mission or anything, it was not a targeted statement. Yauch just blew those lines when we wrote the song.

Diamonds: For Yauch probably already, we can not ask him anymore. The idea was sort of emptied of our network. It's the beauty of making a record: we simply add these lines, then many people come into contact with him.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: For your fifth album "Hello Nasty", write that you were "almost grown up" at that time. Two of you now were fathers, you took a family bus on tour.

Diamonds: It was a fun development: we always did our thing, went into the studio and at first made a joke of farting. But all of a sudden, we did that at half-past nine in the morning, after Yauch and I delivered our children to school. Ten years ago, I would not have imagined that in life.

Horovitz: I remember one of our last shows, it was in San Francisco, and five young children suddenly found each other. Half of the adults again wrapped around them on all fours. And I still remember what I thought: "It's damn stranger than when things were really weird." It was just awesome.