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What's a team of hunters, a well-established team of victorious Spurs in Europe has to do with a shocked shrapnel, still arguing but hoping to recover United beaten a different night by another team?
May be Spurs fans should focus on turning all this recent promise into a tangible, trophy-winning pedigree.
Plato – MUFC (Full of pedigree)
So the Spurs have one of their best parties in Europe last night and all their fans can think of Manchester United.
Your team has just played against a very good team from Dortmund and beat it convincingly. You write to F365 to use this as a crutch to beat United, take control of your victory, because we do not give a damn to what you do. think of us or Ole from elsewhere.
Paul Murphy, Manchester
Hi,
Just a quick comment about the emails from Dave, Somewhere and Paul from the morning mailbox.
Seriously, how did the results and performances of the Spurs lead you to compare it to United?
Look at it rationally. PSG have lost 3 games all season. One was the first leg of a cup that was 10-2 overall. Two weeks ago, Lyon recorded another game and the third faced a Liverpool team that held the "biggest PL team of all time" at the top of the standings.
They have a team of top players (including one of the best central defenders, midfielders, wingers and forwards in world football) who can basically change tactics every week to see who and what works best without the results suffering. a result. This was evident in the fact that they lacked a few mbadive players and yet they could call in reservists who fit in perfectly with the team.
United, meanwhile, had six weeks to put together a whole new way of playing.
They did not have the luxury of mixing things very recently and basically had the same start from eleven hours a week.
The disadvantage is that, as in the case of Lukaku and Sanchez, the marginal actors who arrive are still not in phase with the new manager's way of thinking. Although it does not help, they are mediocre at best. Both must go to the IMO.
The Spurs, on the other hand, are a team that Poch has shaped in his image for 5 years now. Again, there were a few key players missing but the style does not change when it makes changes.
They were confronted with an absolute who is who of whom in Dortmund. A Dortmund with Mario Gotze at the top, Axel Witsel as a midfielder who missed Marcos Reus.
"But they are leading the Bundesliga!" Let's be fair, Bayern is extremely underperforming this season. They have already lost 4 league games after losing 8 games in the previous three seasons.
Bayern has just taken shape and I will not be surprised if they open the door in a month or two.
To say that the Spurs' victory against this Dortmund team throws light on United's loss is ridiculous.
In fact, maybe United has scored 4 points on the Spurs since Ole took control, losing a game less in the championship and scoring only 2 points less than the Spurs this season is a little embarrbading for them, considering the extreme atrocious United under Jose and the way they are being hailed as true title contenders.
Dave (overly defensive about Ole), Dublin
For the publisher,
While Spurs beat Dortmund is great, Paul and Dave suggest that Dortmund is a better camp than PSG?
Even missing, Neymar and Cavani, PSG had one of the best centers in the world in Silva, the multiple winner of the Champions League, Dani Alves, and a 100 million pounds striker. If we ignore Draxler, Di Maria, Verrati, who costed nearly 200 million pounds between them, they still have a goalkeeper and winner of the World Cup and the legend of General Gigi Buffon in goal. It's hardly a team of part-time workers?
For its part, the only player on this Dortmund team to claim to have achieved anything is Gotze, while Marco Reus, probably their most influential player (according to people who know more about German football than me), was not part of the group. injury and without which, Dortmund have struggled each time this season.
I was not embarrbaded by United's performance, although I admit we could have done better (by looking at you Alexis), while the Spurs played well and got what they deserved in the end. You can only beat what is in front of you and the Spurs have done so, so good game in their eyes, but we are not talking about two comparable sides here.
Conrad Wiacek, MUFC
The debate on why Pochettino will leave is relaunched …
With the exception perhaps of double-digit points offered to Liverpool this season by shocking officials (that's another debate), as a Spurs fan, nothing is more infuriating than this season only "Poch to United".
Although I think United will go to Poch, I do not see why he wants to go. While United fans and odious reporters MEN can argue that they are the biggest club in the world and regularly tell the Spurs players' desire to move to Old Trafford, they forget how time works.
It can not be denied that United is a more prosperous and historically bigger club than the Spurs. It's a given. However, look at the existing configurations. How many United players enter Spurs XI? We can say that 1 … DdG. Some poor souls might argue with Pogba, but Poch would not entertain anyone who plays well when he's mistreated – and for those who may run away from the hype, the unresolved question is whether the right one Pogba's current form in such a terrible career in the United States is nothing more than a purple patch. Look again at this XI start, compare it to the other 4 first sides and there is the argument that Mourinho would have been excessively surpbaded by finishing 2nd.
In trying to look at things literally, United is where they are because of the lack of quality inherent in their team. They are at a lower level than the Spurs and their recent victory at Wembley does not change that, 0-1 could and should have been 3/4 / 5-1, this was the Spurs' dominance and DdG's exploits. It is obvious that Poch would have a huge war chest at United, but the task of bringing the staff to the Spurs level far exceeds the way it is presented.
Why not stay on a better side, with a better stage (when it opens) with a fan base with realistic expectations. I do not see why a move to United is more attractive than that.
NorthernSpur
Mbappe to United
Excellent piece on Mbappe. If Woodward wants to make a "statement," he does not need to look further.
I think we all know that Mbappe will not stay in France forever and that only a few clubs can afford it, so maybe this summer will be Edward's time to prove that Manchester Utd is really the biggest club in the world. world.
Collect all your noodle and tractor money and go get it. With such a signature, the rest will follow.
Jimmy (Son of the player of the year?) Spain
Spurs are not really all that
I can not fault the performance of the Spurs last night, during the last months / weeks and more generally during the reign of Poch, but something is getting on my nerves.
All this to keep doing while missing two of their most important players, TWO! At any time of the season, most teams will miss important players for a variety of reasons. The elite teams that the Spurs have definitely (despite the recent inactivity of the transfers) have between 22 and 25 players. Last night, their bench was made up of England, their second most expensive purchase (Lamela – I think?) And the wonderful Llorente, along with other experienced professionals. They were still able to face EPL's most fit player in Son, one of the most coveted creative ground midfielder in football, and a well-established defense that includes the goaltender and captain very recent winners of the World Cup.
Why should not they be able to win games when they miss 8% of their team? Is Alli as close as Kane, Son or Eriksen?
As I said, it's not to hit the Spurs, even if it sounds like me. Do not pretend they are doing all this with a makeshift team of 18 year olds. I know they gave Skipp a few minutes, but he's the only one, and he's still looking late for the early 30s.
James, Kent.
Tottenham comparisons are childish
As I wrote yesterday – although this was not retained – Dave from Somewhere exaggerated his overreaction to United's performance / defeat showing just how much football fans are unrealistic.
Solskjaer has been in the role for 8 weeks. Eight weeks! His primary goal was to stop the rot that had been in place for so long. Well, he did it. And how. The next step was to get the team to play decent football and (in paradise) to settle for a first team. Ok until here everything is fine. Then, close the space at the top. 4. The box is checked. Yes, he had a list of forgiving matches, but can we honestly say that any other coach would have managed to make 10 wins out of 11 and generate a good goal difference of +17?
OGS has inherited from a Premier League 4/5 team. Not a top 2 in the Premier League and certainly not a European top 4. PSG may have missed two elite players, but the rest of its team is damn good and perhaps more balanced without the Brazilian trinket. It is fanciful to believe that this US team, which has all the knockout experience at CLA in recent years, rivals PSG. Comparing a well-established Spurs club, with a stronger midfielder, and a manager who's been in the club for years, United and a manager who's been in that position for two months, is just childish.
Solskjaer may have the quality of being United's savior. He may not. It remains to be seen. But all we received from Tuesday's punishment experience reminded us that this United team was just not at this level.
Stephen (wasting my sweetness in the desert air), Dublin
Old tired trope
Can Dortmund use the clbadic English pretext that "we lost because our championship is so intense" or is it rejected only when English teams hurt? Can this silly point be put to bed?
Whether or not you have a winter break, you still have to play 38 games. Spanish teams play twice a week from January due to the Copa Del Rey. One weekend there was a ranking while the English teams rest.
Liverpool will have had 9 days off before the Bayern match and 9 days off last month.
Fatigue / Intensity was a load of ##### it.
Was not it a problem when Liverpool arrived in CL last season
It was not a problem when England came in the semifinals.
It was not a problem when the English teams qualified for 6 finals in 7 seasons from 2005 to 2011.
It was only a "problem" when English teams lost to better teams.
It's funny that.
Ferg, Cork.
As for Qs
I would like to try some suggestions for the five questions Asked United this summer, if I can.
- It is an interesting project, which depends entirely on the next permanent manager. If it's Ole then, when Young just signed another contract extension, I think he'll be playing pretty often again. In this case, Dalot will probably have the green light in more games than before, but probably not in the bigger games. Young adds a bit more experience to a relatively young 11-year start, which is always useful, but he's playing in a position that relies heavily on speed and athleticism – two things that will inevitably begin to weaken as soon as possible. For me, the club would be well advised to give priority to Dalot until the end of the season, which would allow some mistakes along the way. As we have seen with Rashford, regularly starting games is the best way to accelerate a player's development. So you have to at least gather hard evidence to make this call more informed. It might have been better to let Young's contract expire and consider a new signature, but if a new right-hander is acquired, Dalot should probably be loaned.
- That's what scares me a little, because so far I've been happy with Shaw's contribution so far. But then, I started to wonder if it was more because he was playing at all, rather than because he was playing well. I do not think he has had a lot of bad games, but I may have been blinded. I will start looking more closely in the coming weeks. But in any case, we can not let it down right now, because he's literally our only left-back specialist. If we bring him proper competition, then everything is fine, but we certainly can not let him go.
- I say that all season, but United desperately needs competition for Matic. Herrera and Pogba had formed a good partnership (until PSG match), but when we were more and more threatened, I looked on our bench a person we could name to support him and that we found derogatory. Fred is clearly not the type Matic (I'm not sure what he is), and now Fellaini is gone, we look desperately short. I would not be against bringing in someone like Oriol Romeu (2.7 tackles and 1.6 interceptions per game, versus 1.9 and 1.1 for Matic), but we really need to coverage. Neves would obviously be good too, but I guess it would be rather expensive at this point. I'm not sure whether it's Milinkovic-Savic or Tousart.
- Well, this one is easy. We must get rid of at least two, if not three half centers (1.5 centers in total). Jones, Smalling and Rojo would be my immediate choices, no doubt. I would prefer that we promote Tuanzebe to the fourth choice and spend a lot of money to get the super center-half we need. Alderweireld will be fine, I suppose, but I do not know how long you will get out of it before you have this problem again. I can not claim to know enough about Skriniar or Koulibaly to say if they are worth "money" because I do not watch Italian football. But Harry Maguire is a huge no-no. He had a great summer, but he's not a big defender – he looks like a less comical Phil Jones – we can and should do a lot better.
- Another easy, in my opinion. Rashford proved he was able to become our number one striker since replacing Lukaku under Ole. The big problem of Tuesday night is the one we have known all season under José: we have not created any opportunity. No matter who was on our team that night, we just did not send the ball to the striker in the right areas. We could buy Mbappe and we would still have this problem. Of course, he would probably score some brilliant goals individually, but until we talk about an elephant that's been in the room since Nani's bloody start (ie, what we buy a right winger who can help), we are going to have a hard time getting on. serious type of title charge. I also think that getting the right player in would help us get more out of Lukaku. It was not as bad as it is sometimes described (although it definitely had a mediocre season this time around), so it's worth persevering with them two, plus Mason Greenwood next season I say.
So it's a defensive midfielder, the right back, the middle right, with a right back to decide. Oh, and sell / release Darmian, Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Mata and Sanchez (ha, good luck with that!). There is a lot of work to be done, but there is still work to be done.
Ted, Manchester
The letter of the law
Well, we have the VAR in Holland since the beginning of the season and now in the Champions League and it just does not work. Last night, Ajax scored a goal, everyone celebrates it, the crowd is unleashed, many feel joy and even happiness, even Sergio Ramos has nothing to say, Courtois himself felt guilty because it was his mistake that had led to the goal. all of a sudden this is not an objective.
Apparently, Tadic was in front of the goalkeeper in an offside position. The referee was not disturbed, the linesman was not disturbed, but the technology found a reason to cancel the goal.
Was that what we really wanted from VAR? To spot things with the naked eye, you could not spot them? To make offside decisions that the touch judge has never been able to see (we think of Mata's knee)?
Last Sunday, PSV's Dumfries slipped into the penalty area and inadvertently dropped an opponent. The referee signaled to play, but the VAR asked the incident to watch the incident. According to the letter of the law, it was a penalty, but the arbitrator decided that he was not going to grant one because it was a slip of the tongue, he did not care what the rules say.
I applaud this man, but according to the letter of the law, he was wrong. Imagine if everyone lived their life in accordance with the letter of the law. What a scary place this world would be. The world of VAR. Pay attention to what you want in England.
Thomas
Holland
Chicken before the egg
If Steven Chicken did not exclude me by my name, and I'm now shocked because he thinks I'm a racist football fan, does that make me a snowflake?
Nickel, (in agreement with Errol LFC 100%), Ireland
The clbad of the clbad of92
Just a quick comment on the death of Eric Harrison, United's junior team coach, the man who brought us the clbad of 92 and who turned United's youth up when Sir Alex arrived and the has charge of making stars. RIP Eric and thank you for the memories.
Paul Murphy, Manchester
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