Our third and final discussion with spoiler on Jordan, including the Jordan Peele listeners' mail – / Movie

The episode of March 29, 2019 / Film Daily, / Chief Film Editor Peter Sciretta is joined by / Film Writer Ben Pearson ]. writers Hoai-Tran Bui and Chris Evangelista to have our last discussion on the of Jordan Peele, including access to all your emails in The Mail Bag.

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Opening Banter : Remember that Ben and Peter will be at CinemaCon in Las Vegas next week.

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In Featured Lecture : We continue with our third and final installment of our discussion of Jordan Peele Us's spoiler.

• HT gives us an interpretation from us rich in spoiler.
• What Chris learned from Jordan Peele's interview with Empire .
  • "This film is kind of a dark Easter party, it's a messiah's uprising after a metaphorical death."
  • Jordan Peele also says that the official name of the film is "The Day". underground / underground is "the underpbad"
  • . He also points out that the big explanation that gives the red on the place where the attachment has arrived may not be really true, but just something that she believes, which is something that I I said on the other show, so now I feel smart
• Ben gives new observations. Mentions The article by Jen Yamato in LA Times on Peele:
  • Peele says: "We" was inspired by the division and xenophobia that he observed in the world. Post-election America and by the notion that "the feeling that we all feel ourselves the good guy in our own history prevents us from facing our demons. "
  • " In terms of where they come from, which is called the underpbad, I do not tell you how vast and vast it is, and in my mind, it's big and big enough, "" I will not give the borders, but there are … ways out there.
  • "The realization that our wicked in this area are worship, are fanatics and violent fanatics Those who are daily engaged in some kind of incredibly insane behavior are the realization that we can say the same thing from the other world – from us, "said Peele. "As Americans, as in the United States, we are also fanatics and we are violent."

In The Mailbag:

• Brian T Writes in " Something I noticed on a Reddit thread, which I felt like a brilliant sighting (but did not hear say in the podcast) was the symbolism of the long video of "Thriller." The storyline of the musical "Thriller" begins with the resurrected dead from the underground and attacking MJ and his date.In the end, MJ and his date think they're safe but we take a look at the camera with a scary MJ smile, revealing that he was secretly one of the monsters – kind of like this that we receive from Adelaide unique glove, but not the overall synchronization of the plot with the video "Thriller", which, in my opinion, is an additional layer of symbolism beyond the simple badortment MJ costumes The doppelgängers bore the scars of the actions of the people who dominated them. This refers to the way we pbad our problems from the upper clbad to the lower clbad, such as with climate change that mainly affects the poorest communities, while the richest can afford to avoid climatic impacts – even if it's something they cause worsens ., Burns on the little boy, doppelgänger, have earned him to reflect the "our world" version of playing him with this lighter toy on his finger. Because doppelgängers have poor quality imitations of what the upper world has, he played with matches very close to his face. The lighter did not work, but the matches worked, his face was burned and he could not help it. Elisabeth Moss's doppelgänger character had a similar effect: she had her face cut off as a poor-quality version of the plastic surgery that "above" Elisabeth Moss boasted of Adelaide. Incredible, no? I would like to be able to remember how I found the thread to be able to attribute to them the merit.
• Casey N, from Utah, writes, "Hello, I am a huge fan of the podcast. I have a clarification about Jason's attached theory. I do not necessarily agree with this theory, but there is an explanation that makes more sense than pbading Jason and Pluto when he goes to the bathroom. The moment of switching occurs the previous year, the last time they were at the beach house. Gabe casually mentions Jason acting differently since the death of his grandmother. The death of the grandmother has nothing to do with it, but her strange behavior could be an indication. If I remember correctly, Jason said the magic trick with the lighter was left at home and he did not do it for a whole year. I do not really have a good explanation about it, but it's as if something weird had happened the year before, and given the layers of detail that Jordan Peele puts into this film, it seems more than just A coincidence. There are other things that we could integrate retroactively with this theory. Learning to speak may have been an easier transition because Red knew how to speak and knew him better. Jason was building sand tunnels, not a sand castle . Red also seemed to treat Jason with more respect than other members of the family. She told Zora to run, but was satisfied with Jason "playing" with Pluto . When she kidnaps him on the beach, you may think that she will be a little more violent about it and will not let him get lost in a locker. Some flaws in the theory explain why the devil Pluto runs on all fours. This theory only allows Pluto a year to adjust to life in the tunnels, which seems like a weird oddity to take at the time . Thank you for reading! "
• Jacob C from Mississippi writes in" Hey guys! I loved your discussions on American spoilers! I hope to hear more. I've tried to stay away from any criticism, opinion or interpretation simply because I wanted to understand what this film meant to me before talking with others. I'm obsessed with this movie since I see it. I can not get it out of my head. Yours and the slashfilmcast were the first opinions I heard. After seeing the film twice now, I wanted to develop something that Chris said, which was my first interpretation after watching this movie. There are so many references to different horror movies of the 80s that you have often talked about. One of the references, or at least the one I was reading at the beginning, was the fact that there were a lot of subtle images here and there of Native Americans or their culture . I thought this could be a reference to The Shining who also has a lot of that. But when I started to think about it more, I thought this film was perhaps trying to talk at least partly about America's past. On the sins this country has buried (the Amerindian American on the front of the mirror room at first) and on how it is portrayed almost as a myth or fantasy of the past (Merlin later). It would also help to explain the entire statements from the hands of America that the attaches were trying to make. You can not stand across America and try to make a statement about something without the past and the sins that you have committed and are bound to, holding your hand with you. I love all your other interpretations. I want to go see him again to notice more things. I love the fact that this movie becomes a completely different movie the second time you watch it. Things come together so easily the second time. The character of Adelaide is completely different. It reminds me of the arrival that way. In addition, I fully understand your opinion of how Red's initial narrative monologue seems a bit awkward. But it makes more sense a second time to know that Red is a little behind and that at this moment, she reminds her double the life that was stolen. Whatever it is, sorry it's long. Thank you for reading if you have done so far. Love the podcast! "
• Jordan P writes in" Hi everyone! I'm calling Jordan and I'm a movie critic. I started writing reviews about five years ago and getting them to the next level by starting a Youtube channel. I am a knowledgeable listener and subscriber to your podcast and I enjoyed your "We" episode very much. Here are some elements that I thought about when writing my review and your interpretation: I started in the film thinking that it was perhaps a more psychological thriller, because each character had somehow evil twin ". And I really appreciated the psychological elements of 'Get Out'. There is still a part of me who thinks that these twins may be just the terrible parts of us that we all feel like; the other side that has critical or animal tendencies that we (most of us) keep locked up. Instead, I found Adelaide the fighter in the face of her demons and her true nature, instead of therapy, treatment or any other kind of help we were looking for problems. I thought this might be another reason why The Teathered has never been explained in terms of existence; everything is in our head in a dark neurological tunnel. I think I would have appreciated a bit of clarity if this experiment was sanctioned by the government because I felt that The Teathered and humans could unite to fight the enemy common. I had the feeling that Adelaide and Red blamed and hated each other, while none of them should have been. From a political point of view, it is a representation of the Democratic and Republican parties who want the other, or immigrants and Americans who hate each other when none of them has the real power to enforce what he wants. I appreciate that you encourage your listeners to contact you! Thank you for allowing me to discuss my points of view and hope to continue sending you more!
• Steve P writes in " I was wondering if Peele had named the Wilson family as a nod to Poe William Wilson's dark doppelgänger story? He finishes (spoiler) with William stabbing his black twin and then seeing the bloody victim in a mirror: He says: "In me, have you existed – and, in my death, do you see by this image, which is yours? you are murdered. "
• Mahesh K writes in" I've been listening to the slashfilmdaily podcast on the movie Us (as well as reading the article about the movie slash and all the other articles on the Internet because this film broke my head) and had some thoughts and further readings on the film. For me, much of this film had to do with oppression and potentially with incarceration. For me, that's what rabbits represented to me. Rabbits start in cages (representing the incarcerated), and even when they are released, their life essentially consists of being food for the captives, or simply wandering aimlessly through the tunnels of the captives, not working not really in a society. The red combinations, although probably chosen by design by Red (or, I presume, Adelaide?) And the Tethered for their demonstration, have reminded me of the prison combinations. And finally, the uprising and the manifestation itself. This is the biggest idea that Jordan Peele has for us and I'm not sure I've seen this fake mentioned. What are the Tethered doing? They kill (or try to kill) the ordinary people they replace, and then what? They manage through the American waterfalls which, we know, did not get much in the 80s. I think this is a message that Peele sends to the oppressed or to those who feel oppressed. If you have the impression that some people, just like you, are doing better than you (and there are still some), do not try to hurt or kill them just to get up. Because then what? You are still the same person, but in a different place. Instead, it shows what can happen if a person who is Untethered is exposed to the environment that Red is after having traded with Adelaide. He uses swap / twist to argue for nature against edification (focusing on building) and how people systemically oppressed in the US can flourish if one gives them basic opportunities. In other words, do not ignite, privileged or not, work together to create equal opportunities and everyone can prosper. Regarding the more mundane details that do not count, I will pretend that there were white suits that the patients had received, and they were stained red with rabbit blood. As for the scissors, I'm going to pretend that there was a huge amount of golden barber scissors that fell underground one way or another and that is like that that they got them 🙂 I'm still trying to pbad my head in this movie but it's the big ideas I keep coming back. Thank you guys for all the content !!! "
• Martin I wrote in" Hey Peter, Since you said in your podcast to send stuff here, I thought I would do it and you can read it whenever you want. As I said earlier, I really could not stop thinking about it and when I noticed that there were 55 cages in the foreground I had to think about that to make something rational, otherwise I would not be able to enjoy my weekend. That goes pretty well in the theories of the fans and I have never seen it anywhere, so do not mind giving you the scoop;) Assumption: Nothing in this movie was done by accident and all is intentional. I think that all the multiple themes that have been discussed on your podcast and in the wild can all be grouped in the morality of the man and his attempt to build a society under the law / rules of man against nature and that nature is not. It does not matter what man thinks or what we build beautiful buildings to live in peace. In simpler terms, think of the golden rule (what man has created for the advancement of society) and the ratio of mathematical gold. The opening opening credits open on a rabbit and unravels to reveal several cages stacked on top of each other at the end of the roll. If you count the cages, the dimensions are 5 x 11 (still 11:11) or 55 cages per block. If you are familiar with the sequence Fibonacci 55 turns out to be the 10th step in this series. The Fibonacci sequence is where you pick up the first issue of the series and add the previous number in front to get the next issue of the series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13 , 21, 34, 55). You can then get an approximation of the number of gold or phi of 1.618 by taking the two previous terms and dividing them. Once released on DVD / BD, it would be interesting to see how many shots in the movie follow the number of gold instead of the thirds rule in their composition. (The pairs of rabbits do not follow the Fibonacci sequence when they mate, but the number of gold is used for growth approximations in biology and to model many things in nature in pedals on a flower, shellfish, pine cones, etc.). So we have 10 and 55 The 10 could represent the 10 commandments or a set of rules for the human. So you have the man on one side of the equation with rules to govern the society compared to the nature represented on the other side with 55 rabbits. If you remove religion for one second (the four commandments concerning God), you can summarize the 10 commandments up to the golden rule, act others as you would like them to do it on you . The themes throughout the film can be summarized as follows: Take care of your neighbor, no matter who he is or where he comes from. For many people, it is difficult facing the divisions we know today in society. Most people are not really interested in the welfare of strangers, so let's make the situation more interesting and change the situation by asking if you would feel the same if it was another person. Would you have the humanity to give you what they need if they were hungry, cold or sick and you could provide them? All of the themes that your colleagues mentioned then flow from the idea that man tries to control society with rules and that nature is like your rules are stupid and hypothetical because it clearly does not work that you only care about of your selfish interests. The themes of poverty and parallels with minorities and disenfranchised people stem from this and from the fact that modern America and the world are lagging far behind and that we must become real. More information about Fibonacci and rabbits: http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMAT6680Fa11/Molnar/final3ram/final3ram.html Which is good for you and see you soon when I see you!

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