Ohio governor battles CNN host over election security concerns

“No, time out. Big picture with technological changes, potential hacking, all of those things, ”DeWine replied.

The interview became more controversial as Tapper continued to insist that the real problem was not voter fraud, but doubts about the system created by President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that he had been swindled by victory. “These are lies that undermine democracy,” Tapper said.

“Jake, you can make that point,” DeWine said, “but I’ll come back to my point which I think is also valid. And what is valid is that we have a lot of people in this country who question this election. It is a problem.”

DeWine later added that Tapper blamed the president, “Not so simple.”

Tapper replied, “It’s that easy.”