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The right placeThe weather is at its lowest.
NBC comedy by prolific producer / producer Mike Schur will complete with the fourth season previously announced on NBC. Schur (Parks and Recreation) previously said The Hollywood Reporter that his comedy from another world, with Kristen Bell and Ted Danson, was never conceived to be a long-running series.
"Obviously, because of this DNA, where statutes are so exploded so often, it's not a show to be aired in nine years," he said. THR in December. "This is not a 200 episode, friends some sort of agreement This is not a hangout show. So, yes, we have thought a lot about it and we have a certain plan, which I think you will have sense in the not too distant future. "
The latest news of the season, announced Friday evening at the Emmy panel of For Your Consideration, comes after Schur has solidified his future with The right place Universal Television producers have signed a massive five-year, nine-digit contract worth $ 25 million annually.
The right place was a reliable, though modest, artist for NBC in its third season (completed in January). The serial fantasy series ranks as the best comedy of the network among the most important adults, aged 18 to 49 years. What else, The right place has been a rare player in the awards season at a time when few broadcasts are able to make their way through a glut of premium and streaming rates. He has won the prestigious Peabody Award this year and the Emmy nominations for lead role in Maya Rudolph Danson and guest star, among the best mentions of comedy at the Golden Globes (and for Bell), among others.
Schur, who also produces Fox's favorite turned NBC Brooklyn Nine-Nine alongside the showrunner Dan Goor, has also become a prolific developer. This season, he launched the multicamera Big Swing outdoor comedy Abby (which was recently canceled) and his pilot – sunny side, starring Kal Penn – was commissioned to the series at NBC. This last one-camera entry, about a former New York City councilor who helps immigrants in search of the American dream, is written by Penn and The parks grad Matt Murray.
With the news of last season, NBC is under additional pressure to launch a new comic title alongside the current weakening. Will & Grace revival, modest but critical critic Hypermarket and Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Especially as The right place is a short-run series and broadcasts 13 episodes per season.
The right place joined ABC Modern family, CBS & # 39; Criminal minds and Madam Secretary, NBC Blind spot, Fox Empire and the CW Supernatural and Arrow as a TV series that will end their races during the 2019-2020 season.
Schur opens in an exclusive and exhaustive interview with The Hollywood Reporter about his thinking behind the end of the series, the responses from the network, the studio and the distribution at the end of the game and what he ultimately hopes the viewers will lose time The right place.
Why end with season four?
Once season 1 was over and broadcast, it seemed to me that the show would survive the challenge of becoming a modern-day television show. I said to myself, "Well, this show is not a typical show where the goal is to do it, as long as we can and as many episodes as we can." This was never conceived of this way: we do 13 episodes a year from the beginning. I knew that I had to map that in the same way that I had mapped the first season, I needed to map the whole show. I did not think it had to be definitive, but I needed to know how long I thought the idea could be maintained. I quickly came to the conclusion that it was four seasons. There were times in the beginning when I felt maybe five and maybe three. (LaughsOnce I settled in four seasons, I did not tell anyone – except the writers. I did not say anything to the studio or the network because I wanted to make sure that I was right and that I wanted to leave open the possibility that, when the team was developing the show, I wanted to allow the possibility that something changes and that there is more I wanted to do. But he was almost always four from the beginning as a general map. We spent all season three checking and checking that we were pacing and that we would have enough time to do what we wanted, but not so much that we could run instead. Towards the end of the third shooting season, I informed the studio, then shortly after, we informed the network. It was completely dictated by the idea and how much juice I thought the idea contained and the pace at which we let the story unfold and things like that. The good thing about TV shows nowadays is that it's not a forced marathon. You can let the idea dictate the number of episodes you actually realize, which is great for creativity.
When you chose Ted and Kristen, was that part of your original presentation? That it's not a show that will last 100 episodes? Like, 'Ted, this is not CSI in terms of longevity of the episodes?
I did not tell them about it because it seemed premature because I did not know what was going to happen. I wanted to take into account the possibility that things are happening unexpectedly. I did not want to dismiss good ideas by saying, "No, it has to be so many episodes or so many seasons." I did not tell them until we got well into season three and I made that final decision in association with the writers. It was a group conversation to say, "Are we missing something? What else could we do? Where can we go?" I did not tell them until I was sure because I did not want to tell them anything and have to go back. I wanted to be 100% sure, towards the end of the third shooting season. I called Ted and Kristen and I said that it was the plan. The other thing was that I wanted to be fair to the actors. They want to work and I wanted them to know, for a year, that we would be done with the situation and if they wanted to plan their lives, they would have enough time. It is right for the actors to make sure that the actors continue to participate in these conversations, because if you had talked to them a week earlier, they might have refused some offers they did not make because they thought it would conflict with their local television program. It was also a consideration for me and I wanted everyone to know it so I could plan their life a little better than if I had waited until the last second.
It's a very classy gesture.
That's what happens when you do an ethics show, you start thinking all the time about the lives of others. Personally, it would be useful for me to do things this way but it will hurt everyone. According to a very simple utilitarian calculation, other people are involved here and they have every right to know what their future is.
Is any part of you disappointed that this news is published now, given the highly secretive nature of the series? I'm coming back to the final of season 1 which was such a big surprise for everyone – especially since it did not sink. And you have so well protected all your greatest secrets in the past three seasons. Is there a part of you that wanted to surprise viewers with a finale of the series that no one knew would happen?
(Laughing.) No. This is not a creative surprise. The creative surprises are kept with a lot of zeal and attention, because for me, the best thing to see as a spectator is to look at something and be really surprised. I said it after the last season. I always feel that about creativity. But I do not think the end of the show is a creative decision, but that's the situation. We will finish and if you have followed the show, it is right that they know what our plan is to determine the duration of the broadcast of the show. There is something tempting about going beyond the end of the show, doing an episode, saying goodbye and running away! It's a fun idea in theory, but the way we planned the last season, I do not think people would do it. do not know. You will have the impression of watching the last season – about halfway through, you will see that there is no way that it is not the final phase. This did not seem to have the same importance of keeping this secret as the internal plot.
The more general purpose of most broadcasts is to have a long run to reach the 100 episode marker for syndication. And you guys, you finish at half of this series – and when the series is at the top of its form. How much did NBC and Universal TV want this to continue – or ask what the fallout is?
They are very supportive of me and the show and they were a little disappointed because I think they like that (Laughs). I had hinted at the studio at the end of season 1 that I did not see this as a 10 seasons affair. The series simply moves too fast and at one point, there are not many interesting moves to make, we rehearsed and we did not want to run on the spot. In my first conversations with Damon Lindelof about the series, he explained how Lost in his second and third season, the situation became blurry for them and as soon as they set an end date, things started up and they regained their balance. He has talked a lot about the need to know where you are going. If you're trying to serialize a show as much as we do and you have the twists we're anticipating, he said you just needed to know where you're going all the time. So it was not a total surprise for the studio but it was more of a surprise to the network – and they were a little disappointed. But we live in a different time now. The white whale for every studio and network is The Big Bang Theory and a show that has lasted 12 years and 300 episodes. But there is not much The Big Bang TheoryThere. This is also no longer the only way to make money. It was the only bulwark in decades because it was the only way for the studios to get their money back through shows they were spending a deficit on. But this is no longer the case. Our show was sold to Netflix after one season and season three is launched in a few months. And there is Hulu and NBC.com. Our overnight rating when the show airs on NBC is $ 4 million or something. After a few weeks, it went to 9 or 10 million. They find a way to make money on TV shows that do not last, syndicate or get a cable sale. It is still important and remains a profitable operation for any studio if a show lasts 10 years and produces 200 episodes. But they can now earn money at every show. So they were disappointed because they like the show but I did not get a reaction at all. They were totally supportive of creativity and 100% understood why we were doing it this way.
What was the reaction of the distribution to the shortened life of the series?
They were surprised and saddened, but quickly, neither surprised nor saddened because it was really fun to do this show. They hear very well and have all become very good friends. They made this special trip and their career is exploding. Ted and Kristen came with pre-exploded careers, but Manny [Jacinto] is in Top Gun and go [Jackson Harper] is written plays and appearing in the movies and Jameela [Jamil] is the queen of the internet right now. And D & # 39; Arcy [Carden] is everywhere and in all magazines. It's a very special and very concentrated thing that we had to do for 53 episodes – because we have 14 episodes of the season and an end of the one-hour series. We tell our story at an incredibly fast pace and it makes sense that we wanted to stick to our own terms and not have the impression of slowing down and moving more slowly or deliberately than today. 39; hui. It would not look like the same show. So we go thoroughly until the end. At the end of the day, everyone is happy to be able to end it as we started: at breakneck speed, with a lot of crazy and wild twists.
Is there a theme for the last season?
This is no different from the themes of the first three seasons. When you finish a show, there is a certain amount of things to be done that are a bit different from what we have done so far. At the end of the third season, they repeated this great experience of Michael's neighborhood with new people and saw what happens when they are new people. Their bet is that no matter what group of people, if he receives a certain amount of love, support, empathy and help, can become better. This essentially nobody is beyond the rehabilitation. This is the first part of the episodes: repeat this experience with these new people and let our team now pass students to teachers. It's the experience of the plot that is going on. The consequences are the consequences and I will not be interested in them too much. The themes are the same and the way the stories unfold is a little different. Instead of our group being guinea pigs, they are now scientists.
The right place is part of the philosophical wave of shows that includes Westworld, Russian doll and After life who explore what it means to be human. What kind of message do you hope to send in general with the series when you think about the feeling that comes with writing "end of series"?
I hope that one of the points to remember is that ethics is a very important discipline. Ethics and living an ethical life or trying to live an ethical life is extremely important to me and I hope it is important for other people. … I hope that the main lesson of the series, in terms of ethics, is that the essential thing is to try and become aware of the importance of the l & # 39; ethical and take it into account your best in your decision making, at any time. We try to say on some level that trying is as important as doing because trying means thinking about it and doing your best.
Too many people make no effort or deliberately make the wrong effort to improve their lives at the expense of others. This show tries to say that it is one thing that matters and that it should be a factor in every moment of your life. And there is a disadvantage: if you think about it too much, you become Chidi and you do nothing. So by filtering your life, when you have to make decisions, you do a quick check in the end with your ethical compass and you say, "What am I doing, why am I doing it, and could I do better?" It's not so hard. This show adopts a very simple and obvious position: it's better to live this way than not to live that way. This is one of the main messages of the series. The other comes from this book, What we owe to everyone Other, the philosophy of this book is complicated and involves a lot of things difficult to unravel. Basically, if you are creating a company, you should do it through a system where everyone has a vote and where everyone can veto the idea of someone else. d & # 39; other. And if someone offers an idea and you are a reasonable person and you do not reject this idea and no one opposes it, it's a good idea. It's the basic distillation of this book. But the broader meaning of this book, for me, is that we owe things to each other. That you depart from the principle of owing things to other people and that your life should be conducted in that spirit all the time. That this is not a situation of all time. That we have obligations to each other and that it is up to us to take care of each other; and that no one can truly live a full and happy life without the support of other people. It is therefore incumbent upon each person to provide this help, love and support to others to the best of their ability. These are the basics. It's ironic to say that, but we try not to be moralistic in this show on moral philosophy. (Laughs.) These are basic ideas; these should not be controversial ideas – you should always try to live your life as ethically as possible and you have obligations to others. If we can not agree on these two principles, we are doomed. (Laughing.)
You just signed a five-year contract stay with Universal TV. You produce NBC's Kal Penn comedy, Sunny side, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Master of None, none of what you write. What do you hope to do next, especially with the upcoming Comcast streaming platform?
I am not 100% sure. There are a lot of projects that I do or that I co-create / direct at different stages of development. What interests me most is that I have worked with several people in various shows and are now feared for their own shows and to be captains of their own ships. It's very exciting for me to think about trying to help them. Either by co-creating, producing or advising, because many voices are worth hearing and being shown on television. So, my goal is to help others right now.
This seems appropriate after messaging in The right place.
Exactly. I have been running my own show in one form or another on a continuous basis since 2008 and it is really fun. Parks and Rec was amazing and the first two seasons of Brooklyn Nine-Nine that Dan Goor and I were running together were great and The right place was awesome. But I feel that my voice is sufficient for the moment. I look forward to helping other people to put theirs on TV.
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