Trocação Franca: Mackenzie Dern on endless debate over accents, choosing to represent Brazil over the United States, Marina Rodriguez and more



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Mackenzie Dern is the balls after all.

Jiu-jitsu legend and rising UFC strawweight star stops by MMA Fighting Portuguese-language podcast Trocação Franca to discuss everything ahead of his first UFC main event at UFC Vegas 39 opposite by Marina Rodriguez this Saturday, of the boring non-stop debate around her accent, whether or not she is considered a true Brazilian, how motherhood has changed her life and career, how beauty affects her career, how to fight potentially for UFC gold with a win over Rodriguez, and more.

Next, Graciemag reporter Carlos Arthur Junior takes a look at major recent major events, the lackluster Thiago Santos vs. Johnny Walker clash in the UFC and Douglas Lima’s narrow loss to Michael Page in London. Junior also discusses Dern’s successful transition from jiu-jitsu to MMA and why we don’t see many women making the jump to cages and rings compared to male grapplers.

Trocação Franca falls every week every Wednesday – except for this week’s episode – with various Brazilian MMA stars and journalists to debate some of the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world.

Listen to the latest episode below, and don’t forget to subscribe to the MMA Fighting stream on all your favorite podcast platforms for the latest episodes.

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