"Oleg went to the hall, and everyone wanted to line up his back" – the producer of the play Sentsova



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Producer Anna Palenchuk works on the production of Oleg Sentsov's play "The Numbers". The first is expected in November. Palenchuk calls the game prophetic, because for heroes, the disagreement with the system has the same consequences as for Sentsov himself. In an interview with Radio Svoboda, Palenchuk recounted why he was attacking a prison warden with letters, which should be a similar cinematic adaptation of the play, and why Oleg Sentsov entrusted the work to his own works

– Where does the idea of ​​making a performance come from? Oleg participates in the preparation?

– The fact that Oleg is not only a talented cinematographer, he is also a writer. He wrote "Stories", which we published at Laurus Publishing House in 2015. Then he wrote a book Buy a Book, It's Funny ", which we published in 2016 in Folio.And again I knew that there are "numbers". It's a piece, and this piece was supported by our Russian colleagues from Theater.doc and was the readers of this piece.

And to In the fall somewhere I received from Natalia, Oleg 's sister, a message from Oleg, so that we very often exchanged messages through Natal or by mail. Intermediate of a lawyer Dmitry Dinze.And Oleg asked me to do this game because he wanted not only to read the plays, but he wanted to be a full-fledged performance in the theater repertoire

When the elections were held in March, I realized that the altar – Oleg continued to sit down, media support falls [19659006] I said that, ap Obviously, Oleg would soon be released, and most likely, it would make no sense. Because many activists, who support Oleg at all times, thought that prior to Putin's election, which was in March, he would be free of amnesty or something else. But when the elections took place in March, I realized that the altar – that Oleg continues to sit down, that the Oleg media support falls more and more. I realized that something had to be done. And the first thing I suggested was to film his "Stories". There are eight tales that are really cinematic in fact. I thought that it was possible to combine many directors and to do such a cinematic work.

But Oleg's answer was very simple: "No. The game The play" The numbers. "If you like it." And I realized that yes, it would have to put this piece "Numbers". And we started to correspond with him

– What is this piece, "The Numbers"?

– It is such an antithyopy, and there are 10 numbers – from 1 to 10. They are even, that is, men, half-wives. And they exist according to the rules that Zero invented. And Zero – he's like God. He exists on stage, especially these numbers. And the numbers live according to their rules and at one point they think, "And why do we live by these rules, why do we have a lunch break at a time, why are we all sleeping the same way? all the same shape? And they decide, some numbers decide to go against this Zero.

And in fact, the piece is not only anti-utopian, it is also very tied to the fate of Oleg himself, of course, because when the drama of this play develops, when there is such a number that is completely incongruent with the rules, it happens to him the same as what happens to Oleg himself. As a result, the play is such a prophet.

  Oleg Sentsov in the audience room.In August 2015, he was convicted of "terrorist activity" and sentenced to 20 years of the colony

Oleg Sentsov in the courtroom.In August 2015, he was found guilty of "activity" terrorist "and sentenced to 20 years in prison

Now we have submitted to the Ukrainian Cultural Fund for financing. Because I realized that cinema and theater in general, apart from actors, is that it is impossible to do without money, of course. And it is very important for us to get exactly the funding from the state for this show, in order to make it technically at a very high level.

I said, "Let's put it in Ukrainian in the same way." I have received permission from Oleg to have the representation in Ukrainian

It is clear that the name of Oleg is now known around the world. And when to do his performance – this show, of course, will travel to other theatrical festivals, on tour to ride. Therefore, it is very important to make this performance a universal product that will include both Asia and America.

I even wrote in America that maybe we will immediately put it in English? I said, "No. Let's get everything gradually, let's put it in Ukrainian." It was I who received permission from Oleg that the interpretation was in Ukrainian

– And he wrote it in Russian

– Yes, he wrote. In the original it is in Russian

– Do you have not only theatrical plans for this piece?

– I'm a movie producer actually, but I'm not a theatrical producer. I realized that we really had to take this piece because there will be many people in the world who would like to see the work of Oleg Sentsov.

I thought that in the realities of the whole Ukrainian scene, if we shoot, on such clowns-aphs, that is to say big projects, and so it will not be very interesting. I thought it was moved to the pavilion, if there were other sets out there, it is clear that we will make a screen version of this room. As the British do their own British cinema at the cinema, we will also do Ukrainian theater at the cinema, but the play of Oleg Sentsov. And the cinematographic language will transmit this theatrical performance.

And when I offered it to Oleg and I wrote that the reference is the movie "Dogwill" … now the last letter that I received from him, she is dated June 22nd. And there it is written: "You know," Dogwill "is really that, you can make it so solid." And that is for us now with Oleg two different products. The first is an adaptation, which will probably be in December. And at the end of the fall, in November, we will do the show premiere. We write with him, we discuss what actors can play.

He said: "There is no need for clue – who is my friend, who does not take the best"

Unfortunately, Oleg, we understand everything that is detached to us , and it does not have such a palette of Ukrainian actors, which our Ukrainian public has learned in recent years. But, of course, for me Oleg also wrote: "Anya, take the best." I wrote to him: "Oleg, of course, will take the best .What, do we have the choice?" He said: "It is not necessary that a friend – who is my friend, who is not – take the best. "

– His word is decisive?

– Regarding: You are staging the piece, it's me Given all the levers, having said that it's a repertory theater, it's not a theater director, "I have to give the director freedom", that he's not In principle, I do not need all this, but my task is actually – to give him the hope that he would understand that he needs us.

– Do you go somewhere with Sentsov's project?

– This project will be presented at the Odessa Festival as an artistic film project, and at the Ministry of Culture.I think that ten days later, we will tell who is the director, because we are working on it now. write to him what a landscape can be. Because the theatrical artistic setting and the decor of the film adaptation will, of course, be different. They will be the same in style, but different, their construction will be different. And I told him, "Or maybe we will make the entire city an anti-utopian city, in which all these rooms are inhabited?" Maybe we diluted them in different places that we are going to build.

But for me it's very principled, this principle is "Dogvilla". When there is a camera that watches them all, and when the viewer will see that it is a built scenery.

– Why do you have such confidence in Oleg? Have you been long and familiar, perhaps have you had common projects?

– We met him at the Odessa Festival in 2012. He participated in the pitching, then presented a rough draft of his second Rhino movie, and then I took care of all that pitching, as a that man who worked at the Odessa Film Festival. I have heard a lot about him, because he was such a director, of whom at that time all spoke, in principle, as it is today. Because he shot so well with his "Gamer".

I remember, Oleg went into the lobby, and wanted to be so everyone, I think, in one way or another to line up his back. Therefore, he is a very strong and very strong person.

  The action in favor of Oleg Sentsov at the stage

The action in favor of Oleg Sentsov at the stadium "Olimpiyskiy", "Kiev, July 2, 2018

And then, when it was planted, in fact, I first joined in. There are many reasons why I did all this, and then we did a week of Ukrainian cinema in support of Oleg in Kinopanorami, after a few months they collected a lot of money, somewhere at the time 120 thousand hryvnias or 125, The 12 hryvnia was a dollar exchange rate.This is a lot of Because Natalya, her sister, said, "Anya, there is no money to be made, I do not know." I said, "Now we let's sort of collect. "And there was a dresser, all brought, thrown away, all the money out of the banknotes.

Then I published his books, and I've constantly talked with Natalia And I think that in fact, Oleg makes me so confident because I am spiritually close to him. Because he knows that all this time I've tried something to support him.

I'm sorry for one thing – that I started writing to him only from March. Because I thought he was writing so many letters, he thought, "Well, what else to worry about with his letters?" Some messengers have sent it through an attorney or Natal on what we are doing

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With him, I understand that he really needs this word printed in a written letter. And I'm sorry, I write to him about it. He now tells me, "Anya, you're directly attacking me with letters." He wrote me like this: "Anyway, write to me already, write me the e-mail" FSIN-letter "(the electronic service of the Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia for correspondence with prisoners – Ed.) Because the lawyer Dinz is already a factor.

In general, Oleg is such a person: he never says superfluous and never writes superfluous.Not because he filter, but because it's very specific, very basic, and that it does not need to speak ten words it can say a word. That's it But through his letters, I've generally understood that he really remembered a lot from the moment we talked to him.

And I understand that even those memories of what was before his imprisonment, for He is also very important.

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