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A Lion Air Boeing 737MAX-9 takes off from Chiang Mai International Airport in Thailand in June 2018. (Getty Photo)Getty
United Airlines pilots are already trained to respond to the unjustified deployment of an automated barn retrieval system, driver of the airline's pilots' union said Saturday as he spoke about the controversy surrounding the crash Lion Air last month.
Todd Insler, President of the US Air Line Pilots Association, stated that the appropriate pilot response to such an event is described in the manual for British pilots and does not differ significantly from the appropriate response to a similar incident that occurred. in the Boeing 727.
On 29 October, a Boeing 737MAX operating on Lion Air Flight 610 crashed after taking off from the Java Sea in Indonesia, killing 189 people on board.
After the accident, Boeing was widely criticized for failing to provide airlines and pilots with sufficient information regarding a new stall recovery system for the 737 MAX, which can be triggered automatically by events. external such as an abnormal angle between the wing and the ground. the air has flown. The system is called MCAS for Increasing Maneuvering Features System.
The introduction of MCAS into the 737MAX is not specifically mentioned in the United manual, but the recovery procedure after the automatic and unjustified deployment of similar systems is clearly defined and has been going on for a long time, Insler said.
A Boeing 767 captain who flew the 727 and 747, but not the 737, told Insler that on the 727, "there was a known possibility of sudden trim and you could stop it manually. You can manually reset the trim. "
The key, he said, is: "You have to take control manually, it's one of the first things that they teach you when you fly jet. The procedure is there in our manual, and we practice this over and over again. The first time I see an unwanted event, I want to see it in a simulator, not with 300 people behind me.
"As a United driver, I fly the plane," Insler said. "I do not want the plane to fly me. I am always looking for problems and I am always ready to take control if this happens. I'm waiting for something to go wrong because I will be able to use all those years of training that I have.
"The reason why United's mainline pilots are among the highest paid airline pilots is because United's pilots are exceptionally well trained," he said. "What passengers pay for, is to have well trained pilots to pass them from point A to point B."
Insler also recalled that one of the important safety measures in global commercial aviation is the requirement for two qualified pilots to fly each aircraft, which increases the likelihood that a person will override an automated system.
While he was adamant in saying that United pilots are trained to respond to automated stall recovery systems deployments, Insler pointed out that it was too early to say what had caused the accident. Lion Air accident. "At the present time, we assume that it is the MCAS system," he said, pointing out that he would have preferred not to speak until investigators Would not have determined the cause of the accident.
Insler asked why ALPA's national president would react to the Lion Air crash by publicly stating that Boeing should quickly provide more information on MCAS, while the only US carrier ALPA using the Boeing 737 MAX takes a position different. "We are the only US operator of the ALPA aircraft," he said. "We were not consulted by ALPA before the publication of the letter."
Tim Canoll, president of ALPA, wrote in a letter to the FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board on Thursday: "According to some media, the 737 Max was designed and certified with a new automatic height control system which was not part of previous versions of the Boeing. 737.
"More importantly, these reports indicate that information regarding the normal and unnatural operation of this system has not been provided to front-line airline employees, flight crews and maintenance technicians," he said. Canoll.
Canoll's views were similar to those of the Allied Pilots Association, which represents US pilots, and the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association. A spokesman for United's pilots said United ALPA agreed with other pilot unions wanting to be sure that MCAS information was fully disclosed to all airlines and pilots.
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A Lion Air Boeing 737MAX-9 takes off from Chiang Mai International Airport in Thailand in June 2018. (Getty Photo)Getty
United Airlines pilots are already trained to respond to the unjustified deployment of an automated barn retrieval system, driver of the airline's pilots' union said Saturday as he spoke about the controversy surrounding the crash Lion Air last month.
Todd Insler, President of the US Air Line Pilots Association, stated that the appropriate pilot response to such an event is described in the manual for British pilots and does not differ significantly from the appropriate response to a similar incident that occurred. in the Boeing 727.
On 29 October, a Boeing 737MAX operating on Lion Air Flight 610 crashed after taking off from the Java Sea in Indonesia, killing 189 people on board.
After the accident, Boeing was widely criticized for failing to provide airlines and pilots with sufficient information regarding a new stall recovery system for the 737 MAX, which can be triggered automatically by events. external such as an abnormal angle between the wing and the ground. the air has flown. The system is called MCAS for Increasing Maneuvering Features System.
The introduction of MCAS into the 737MAX is not specifically mentioned in the United manual, but the recovery procedure after the automatic and unjustified deployment of similar systems is clearly defined and has been going on for a long time, Insler said.
A Boeing 767 captain who flew the 727 and 747, but not the 737, told Insler that on the 727, "there was a known possibility of sudden trim and you could stop it manually. You can manually reset the trim. "
The key, he said, is: "You have to take control manually, it's one of the first things that they teach you when you fly jet. The procedure is there in our manual, and we practice this over and over again. The first time I see an unwanted event, I want to see it in a simulator, not with 300 people behind me.
"As a United driver, I fly the plane," Insler said. "I do not want the plane to fly me. I am always looking for problems and I am always ready to take control if this happens. I'm waiting for something to go wrong because I will be able to use all those years of training that I have.
"The reason why United's mainline pilots are among the highest paid airline pilots is because United's pilots are exceptionally well trained," he said. "What passengers pay for, is to have well trained pilots to pass them from point A to point B."
Insler also recalled that one of the important safety measures in global commercial aviation is the requirement for two qualified pilots to fly each aircraft, which increases the likelihood that a person will override an automated system.
While he was adamant in saying that United pilots are trained to respond to automated stall recovery systems deployments, Insler pointed out that it was too early to say what had caused the accident. Lion Air accident. "At the present time, we assume that it is the MCAS system," he said, pointing out that he would have preferred not to speak until investigators Would not have determined the cause of the accident.
Insler asked why ALPA's national president would react to the Lion Air crash by publicly stating that Boeing should quickly provide more information on MCAS, while the only US carrier ALPA using the Boeing 737 MAX takes a position different. "We are the only US operator of the ALPA aircraft," he said. "We were not consulted by ALPA before the publication of the letter."
Tim Canoll, president of ALPA, wrote in a letter to the FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board on Thursday: "According to some media, the 737 Max was designed and certified with a new automatic height control system which was not part of previous versions of the Boeing. 737.
"More importantly, these reports indicate that information regarding the normal and unnatural operation of this system has not been provided to front-line airline employees, flight crews and maintenance technicians," he said. Canoll.
Canoll's views were similar to those of the Allied Pilots Association, which represents US pilots, and the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association. A spokesman for United's pilots said United ALPA agreed with the other pilot unions wanting to be sure that MCAS information was fully disclosed to all airlines and pilots.
