Michael Cohen – long-time personal advocate of President Donald Trump and former executive vice president of the Trump organization – has always insisted that he would remain loyal to the president.
He was the guy on the lookout, the pit bull so fiercely protective of his boss that he was once described as "the guy who would take a bullet" for the president.
But in his first in-depth interview since the FBI attacked his office and homes in April, Cohen has clearly signaled his willingness to cooperate with Special Advocate Robert Mueller and federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York – even if it puts President Trump in danger.
"My wife, daughter, and son have my first loyalty and will always do it," Cohen told me. "I put the family and the country first."
We talked for 45 minutes Saturday night at a Manhattan hotel where Cohen has been living for several months. And during this time, the question of whether Cohen could tip over the president has been the subject of intense speculation.
Even the president insisted tweeting in April that "most people will turn around if the government lets them out of trouble, even if it means lying or inventing stories. Sorry, I do not see Michael doing that. "
He described Cohen as a "good person with a wonderful family".
But Cohen did not congratulate the president during our conversation – and disagreed with Trump's criticism of the federal investigations.
When I asked Cohen directly what he would do if prosecutors forced him to choose between protecting the president and protecting his family, he said his family was "my first priority ".
Cohen added: "Once I understand what charges may be brought against me, if any, I will hand over to my new counsel, Guy Petrillo, for advice."
But when I pointed out to Cohen that he was not repeating his vows from the past to "take a bullet" and "do something" to protect the president, the long-time Trump loyalist left little doubt about his current position. "To be clear, my wife, my daughter and my son, and this country have my first loyalty."
Cohen recently retained Petrillo, a former, highly respected federal prosecutor who once ran the US Attorney's Office's Criminal Division in Manhattan – the same office that is currently conducting the criminal investigation into Cohen.