Exclusive: Giuliani on Clinton – "Of course that she should be the subject of an investigation"

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"Of course that she should be the subject of an investigation," said Giuliani, claiming that "there is ample evidence showing that Hillary has obstructed justice in destroying the evidence in a coarse and massive way. "

Giuliani was referring to about 30,000 emails on Clinton's private server, which were removed before investigators could review them during the investigation of her actions while she was secretary of the Clinton private server. State under the Obama administration.

The Clinton team stated that the deleted emails were personal in nature and therefore irrelevant to an investigation into alleged misuse of classified information.

Giuliani's comments were heard in a 13-minute telephone interview with The Hill, which was initially devoted to the current situation of special councils. Robert MuellerRobert Swan MuellerSasse: The United States should applaud Mueller's choice to lead the investigation into RussiaInvestigation. Trump on Tuesday submitted written answers to Mueller's questions about Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election.

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"It's so stupid!" Says Giuliani. "So [Ivanka] used his personal email. The problem with Hillary is not that she used her personal email. It's because she did not maintain it. She destroyed it. She destroyed the emails. Someone used a hammer. Jesus!"

Giuliani's remarks also constituted a defense of the president following an article published Tuesday by The New York Times that Trump reportedly told a White House lawyer at the time. Donald McGahnDonald (Don) F. McGahnThe Hill's 12:30 Report – Trump Plays Sessions in an Exclusive Hill.TV Interview | The accuser Kavanaugh asks for an FBI investigation The Hill 's 12:30 Report – Sponsored by the Better Medicare Alliance – McCain honored at US Capitol Trump has not informed McGahn of the payments from the US. hidden money in 2016: report Learn more earlier this year he wanted to order the Department of Justice to sue Clinton and James ComeyJohn Dean of James Brien ComeyWatergate: Nixon would say to Trump "he's going too far" Trump submits written answers to Mueller Trump wanted the Justice Department to sue Clinton, Comey: report PLUS, the FBI director that Trump fired in May 2017.

Such an approach would be hotly contested, and many legal observers said that if it had been carried out, it would have been an abuse of presidential power.

According to the Times, McGahn reacted against the president, saying that Trump did not have the power to order prosecution. He also ordered a memo that even the slightest act of asking for an investigation of political enemies could lead to a serious reaction up to the indictment.

But Giuliani said that he saw no problem.

"I do not see how a president is prevented from saying that a person should be the subject of an investigation when there is a probable public cause of the crime," he said.

He claimed that Comey had illegally divulged information, which Comey denied for a long time. But Giuliani has reserved his most powerful language to Clinton.

"Someone is being investigated and suddenly 30,000 emails disappear and someone takes them a drill hammer?" I tell you, she is appearing before a grand jury, "said Giuliani.

It seemed to sketch a hypothetical situation if someone had acted the same way as Clinton during Giuliani's tenure as federal prosecutor, rather than hinting that a new grand jury would be charged to him. Clinton case.

Comey finally concluded that no charges were appropriate "in Clinton's investigation into the use of email, although he blamed Clinton and his colleagues for being" extremely careless in handling very sensitive and highly confidential information.

On the question of whether Ivanka Trump's actions could be equitably compared to Clinton's, Giuliani opposed the suggestion that the eldest daughter and the presidential senior adviser should have known the rules governing this correspondence.

The Washington Post reported Monday night that Ivanka Trump had "sent hundreds of emails last year to White House assistants, cabinet officials and assistants, using a personal account, often in violation of the federal rules on archives.

"It's one thing to break one of the 5,000 existing rules in the first participation on board, but keep everything for everything to be there," said Giuliani.

But it was different, he said, "rather than setting up a complete system after being in government all your life and helping to draft some of these rules."

Giuliani confirmed that it is now unlikely that the President will be interviewed in person with the Special Council team, although he said: "We will not stop ourselves from think of 1,000% ".

Instead, he asserted that Mueller's team should be "satisfied" with written answers – even though he acknowledged that the president and his team had refused to deal with any question of hindering the proper functioning of the justice.

"We were not going to answer any obstruction [questions]Giuliani told The Hill. "We do not think we should do it because it is a privileged communication between the president and his subordinates. It's not an obstruction to fire one of your subordinates. It is not an obstruction to give advice to any of your subordinates. "

Jurists argue against this argument by stating that a president would obstruct justice if he did so with "intent to bribe", such as intent to frustrate a legitimate investigation.

But Giuliani remained categorical.

"The whole approach of the president in this regard has been extremely disciplined despite some false stories," he said about the Mueller inquiry as a whole.

"But he's obviously very hurt personally. And me too. It's very difficult when you're accused of something you did not do and you know you did not do it. "