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Warning: this story contains the details of the plot of "Vietnam", the episode of Tuesday That's us.
Until now, you've known Jack Pearson primarily as the parent par excellence and the type of romantic spouse who incites wives to angrily push their husbands and make fun of him. "Why can not you be like him? "(Besides this fight against alcoholism, of course.) Tuesday's episode That's us opened a new chapter in the life of the late Patriarch, who had only been referred to – and who felt a bit good, forbidden: the Vietnam War, of which Jack rarely spoke.
"Vietnam" reaffirmed what we suspected – that Jack did a lot more in the war than just serving as a mechanic. It also revealed much more information about his painful childhood, including living with an alcoholic father who abused his mother and protecting his little brother, Nicky, who, we know, will die later on. war. The worrying worry of Jack for his younger brother – ironically inspired by his father – would help form the legend of Super Jack in a way that we had not known before: when Nick's number, nervous, appeared in the draw, Jack carried him to the Canadian Border to help him escape safely; When Nicky (Michael Angarano) changed his mind, went to work and revealed in his letters that he was fighting fiercely, Jack conspired with his doctor to pass the medical examination so that he could engage in a war that no one wanted to fight. Jack had no other choice: he just needed to be near his younger brother.
The viewers saw Jack – as a sergeant – at the head of an ambush battalion in which he lost men, which deeply affected him, but who, at the Like the other horrors of the war that he lived, would be piled up. After being reassigned to another position, Jack found an opportunity to visit Nicky, who had been demoted to the lowest rank. "Hey, little brother," Jack said as he arrived at the scene and watched Nicky throw gasoline on a barrel of excrement. Hearing this familiar voice, Nicky threw a match into the barrel and turned to face his brother. A look at Jack's expression – and elsewhere at Nicky's – indicates that he has entered an untapped and threatening territory.
Film star Milo Ventimiglia recounts how he was preparing for the danger zone, what he liked about Nicky's introduction and the horrors that await the Pearson brothers.
WEEKLY ENTERTAINMENT: You know that a scenario about Vietnam started since season 1. Was there a mix of anticipation and nervousness in the approach, given that fans would watch from closely, analyzing its impact and accuracy?
MILO VENTIMIGLIA: My feeling is always exciting to play another side of Jack that we do not know. In war, Jack is a very important moment in his life that explains who he becomes. Therefore, for me, playing in the timeline of Jack's creation was exciting. But also, you're right, I knew it would be a heavy task, because it was a different version of the show that people had become accustomed to. It's not Jack and Rebecca, it's not Jack and his kids, it's Jack alone, and Jack with his brother, who we really do not know much about. So, I think that the only nerves come from allowing us, the storytellers, to be able to play in a world that is unknown to what the public normally sees every Tuesday night. But I feel that this episode is definitely a configuration that leaves people asking for more.
How did you prepare for the fight scenes we saw – and the ones to come? I know you mentioned that you were exhausted, because I know you do not stop.
I do not stop and I was tired. We had a technical training camp with a company called Sigloch. The guys from Matt Sigloch explained to us the basic procedure of a soldier and a soldier of the Vietnamese era. Beyond that, understand emotionally what was happening at that time in the world, but especially in the United States – young men being recruited and really how this project would radically change someone's life. One and put it on a trajectory that many guys I just could not recover – it was a preparation that required just as much as learning to use an M16 rifle, a military protocol and some battle scenes. For me, it always comes down to – and thanks to God for – the words that[[[[That's us creator Dan]Fogelman writes and direction [director/executive producer] Kenny Olin gives me. There is always an emotional touchstone that I must be aware of in the technical aspect of war. Because of who Jack is and what he lives, I can not plunge him into "a super-militaristic type with a gold heart"; he is the guy with the conscience. But in this case, the guy with the heart of gold is attached to a rifle.
We have already talked about your father as a veterinarian in Vietnam, and you have Tim O'Brien[VétéranduVietnametauteurde[Vietnamveteranandauthorof[VétéranduVietnametauteurde[VietnamveteranandauthorofThe things that they brought]as a consultant and co-author of this episode. How did you tell them about their experiences and how did they help you meet this challenge?
The scenario we explored with Jack, particularly in the area where he is, was probably closer to what Tim O'Brien had experienced in the war than, let's say, what my father went through in the war. But I guess I somehow smashed everything I knew by talking to my dad and Tim, as well as all we had to do to play Jack in the war. It's not Tim's experience, nor my father's, but Jack's. It's one of those things that just had to tell him how he's doing with his family. So I was getting ready to play that side of Jack. I really needed to get rid of what I had experienced as Jack and move on to fundamentals, and to remember what it was like to be 25 years old and maybe lead a group. guys – or 25 and not really knowing what I'm supposed to do in my life – but take a direction, and be a little afraid of things. But at the same time, put me in an awkward position and push her through. Jack's situation is precisely war, life or death.
Nicky opens the episode and another more revealing at the end. It seems to be a man who has been changed and broken by this war. Does Jack have any idea of the distance that separates him? Jack seems to back off slightly when he sees it.
Jack knows his little brother. Jack knows how serious things are, according to the letters his mother receives. He may understand that his brother is not doing well in the theater of war, but I do not think it is before that time that Jack seems to him that he is well aware of what he is facing . We continue this moment in later episodes. Jack engaged in the war to fetch his brother. So there is a very real possibility and a death threat, but even more so, he has to withdraw his brother. He now has more work than surviving a war. He must survive the war, hopefully for him and his brother. We know in a way that it works; he loses his brother to the war. But I do not think Jack knew how bad it was before he saw it. Jack's mind, though – it does not bend easily, it does not break either, so I think it was important not to be crushed to see someone you like to be so broken. Jack must be hope, he must be the light, he must be the lighthouse at the other end of the turbulent storm to say, "No, no, no. We will get you out of this. "
The mixture of emotions on Nicky's face too. How should we read it? Is it anger? Pain? Relief? Is there a bit of "Oh look, Superman has come to save Lois Lane again"?
I think that's all. No matter how much Nicky loves his brother Jack, there must be resentment that he can not take care of himself. Even when they are little boys and Jack is asleep and Nicky confronts their father in an argument with their mother, and finally it's Jack intervening – I do not know what it is like, I have never had a big brother. I had older sisters and two loving parents, so I have to believe that no matter how much Nicky loves his brother, he's probably thankful that Jack is always standing up for him and his mother, there must be a some resentment. . There must be anger. When we see Nicky at the end of the episode and we see him as broken as him, many emotions are associated with this. We continue in later episodes and see all this. We understand Nicky's pain in the future.
You worked with Michael Wild Card, right? What made you think that he would have been right to play Jack's brother?
We had only shared the screen once, but what I loved to like around him, was that he was this incredible actor at one so much young age and that he was so full of life in reference to all that is theatrical. He grew up in the theater, he grew up with movies, he grew up around dance and song, which I just thought: "Here is this rare actor race that really lives as & ## 39; artist. A long time ago, when we were working together and he was only 22 years old, and now, he saw how he had matured and grown up and how his art became deeper and more meaningful. Like Mandy [Moore]I find myself in the front row with Michael. I can just stand there with him and see the truth in his eyes as he introduces this character and does it – I do not even want to call it a performance – but this truth is so real. It breaks my heart every day because they are brothers. They are literally the same DNA, the same blood, taken from the same tissue. Their experiences are so closely related that I deeply feel what Michael is doing in front of the camera.
Nicky shares a brotherhood with Jack, but it's also an external processor. He carries his emotions on the sleeve, he is vulnerable – a bit the opposite of Jack. What did you expect from the character and what surprised you?
I like that. I think it's an incredible direction for the character, for Nicky, to be just different from Jack, because brothers and sisters are different. One of my sisters, we are very much the children of our father and my other sister is the daughter of our mother. People are just different and I think Jack has a slightly more stoic attitude towards things. I love the fact that Nicky is much more vocal with his emotions and his treatment. But it is also Jack who is the eldest and Nicky the youngest; they fall easily into their roles. My older sister was a little calmer, while I was a little more emotionally vocal when I was a kid. It is therefore logical.
NEXT PAGE: Ventimiglia knows what to expect – and where he keeps Nicky's letter
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