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■ Appearance: Kang Shin-up's lawyer
Anchor
The Supreme Court ruled that Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, a war criminal corporation of Japanese colonial rule, would compensate victims of workplace and forced labor accidents. It's both happy and sad. The victims left this word with many meanings after the victory.
As the saying goes, the results are mediocre, but there are still many challenges to overcome until you actually suffer damage. Related Content Let's review with Kang Shin-up's lawyer. Your lawyer
[강신업]How are you
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There are two types of judgments today. First of all, this case also concerned the loss suffered in Japan in 2008 and was referred to the Supreme Court of Korea. She is sent back many times. Please summarize the content.
[강신업]Today, two decisions have been made, including the Labor Code. This is different from comfort women. In 1944, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, a Japanese-based war crime company, manufactured a Japanese fighter and delivered it because Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was a zero fighter plane.
It was a problem because I was forced to mobilize such a business and I was not paid a penny.
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I will send it to the school.
[강신업]Yes In 1999, seven of them, including Yang Geum-deok, filed a lawsuit against the Japanese government and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. But in 2008, the Supreme Court of Tokyo, Japan is the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court. I have one last loss here.
In Japan, the Supreme Court has lost it. For example, in 2012, we filed a lawsuit against the Gwangju District Law. Here is a partial winner of the manuscript. Then, even if we had some money in the second round, we won.
So I went to the Supreme Court and because of the Mitsubishi appeal. Thus, since three years from 2015, the Supreme Court has not yet ruled. This means that the verdict is out this time.
Anchor
In fact, you may have already seen the report, but some of the victim's grandmother has left the world and those who have stayed are now waiting for the judgment of the disease. It seemed hard to say, but how did you envision it as a citizen and a lawyer?
[강신업]This is what is called the mental dimension of work, but because of the misunderstanding of many people, there is also a part to which I can not speak with heart. I had a very heartbreaking time.
What I have received today is actually a claim for child support. Strictly speaking, it was not a salary that I could not work at that time, but a claim for compensation instead of such material damages, and I received about 120 million or 80 million won.
Deferred definition, deferred definition. But justice has been restored. Restored definitions. I'm sorry to say that this is a deferred definition, but I'm lucky to see some of the workers recovering a bit.
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Delayed definitions, restored definitions. But I think there is another way to get there until it's over. In general public opinion, whenever these decisions have been made, they have been published before, but in Japan they are losing and prevailing in our country. I wonder why the interpretation of the law is different in different countries.
[강신업]This is true. Originally, Japan first sued because Japanese companies are accused. And there was a problem there. I heard two reasons. Is not this the claim of the Japan-Japan Treaty of 1965?
Japanese society and the Japanese government believe that everything has already been solved there. Another thing is that it happened in 1944 and that there is one thing called the disappearance order, ten years. Mitsubishi and the Japanese government have already signaled its adoption. So I made the final defeat at Tokyo Tokyo Court.
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Agree The legal question is to ask a few moments later: now the victim of Kim Sung-joo is the part of the worker's mind, and the other is the decision on the part of the victims who are forced to give their consent.
One of the five victims, Park Jae-hoon, Park Chang-hwan's son, will be connected by phone. How are you
[박재훈]Yes
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I watched the judgment today and I had many years of hardship. How many years after the death of your father?
[박재훈]You died in 2001. So it's been almost 17 years.
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This decision of the Supreme Court was rendered 17 years after the death of your father. It's a painful and sad memory at the time of your pbading. Do you have words or testimony that your father left behind?
[박재훈]He died without will. Suddenly you die.
Anchor
You died suddenly. Can I keep it as usual? What do you usually say?
[박재훈]The word does not do much to your children. Be careful even when you die. Sleeping died suddenly.
Anchor
I think I want to hide something from my child as a parent. I heard that it was the first lawsuit filed by the victims against Japanese companies. When did this trial start?
[박재훈]That's probably what I did in 1997. I do not think so either.
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In March 1999, you filed a lawsuit against the Japanese government and you were the first to sue Japanese companies. It would have been a hard job for a long time: when was the most difficult gobi in the trial so far?
[박재훈]There are so many things that can not be said. When the lawsuit went on in the Busan High Court, I was transporting people here,
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Have you ever wanted to give up or did not have the time?
[박재훈]Many Upon my return, I have many thoughts to give up and I have to stop talking to the lawyers.
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We heard that one of the lawyers had heard that Mr. Moon was acting as a lawyer. Do you have anything to say to me about this?
[박재훈]Yes The government wants to talk to the president, so I want to hurry up and give the victims a quick boost at the national level.
Anchor
What would you like to hurry at the national level, in particular?
[박재훈]I want you to take some sort of excuse from the Japanese government and bring you some kind of reward.
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I would like the government to come to the Japanese government and apologize to the Japanese government, aside from the decision of our Supreme Court.
I do not think you can say that because you are a victim of the Justice and Development Party affair in the previous government. What did you think of this news?
[박재훈]I am angry about any thought. I can not talk.
Anchor
Agree There are many things you want to do, but I will leave you the time that you have left. Thank you for your interview today.
[박재훈]Thank you
Anchor
Please relax tonight. One of the victims, Shin Ho Park and Chang Hwan Park, was in touch with my son Park Jae Hoon. It seems that there is still a grudge against the part of the judicial farm and that it took a long time. Why did it take so long?
[강신업]It's the same. This is forced, men. That's why I was forced to work because I was sick. I have a new Japanese season last time. Was not it a decision already taken? It's the same with the arch.
This is different from the defendant being Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. It was the first time I filed a petition with Japan. So I raised cattle in our country.
It actually lost the first and second shots in our country. I lost 1 st in 2007 and 2 nd in 2009 and will return the victory to the Supreme Court in 2012. At the Busan High Court.
Anchor
Repeat in the second card.
[강신업]Yes As a prelude. So I went to the Busan High Court, and in the Busan High Court the Supreme Court ruled as it should.
Once again, Mitsubishi appealed and returned to the Supreme Court. This is what is called recapitalization. It is 2013. But since then, I have not been tried for more than five years because of so-called judicial farmers. So it took so long. I was accepted by the Supreme Court in August 2013, but it was only in November 2018 that I finally made my decision.
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That was my question when I spoke to Shin Il-chul, the last time I talked about the delay of the Supreme Court decision at that time.
[강신업]At that time, you sent me from the Busan High Court. But that's because the Supreme Court said it would take a lot of time. As the Supreme Court refused to bring the victim back to victory, the victory was won by the Busan Grand Prix.
Then it will take at least a year to complete and it will be done within 6 months. However, as the trial did not proceed, I thought something was wrong. But it turns out that this is what turned out to be a diplomatic relationship with Japan and that the agreement with Cheong Wa Dae finally deliberately delayed the trial in the Supreme Court.
You mentioned an anchor earlier. That's the deferred definition, the retrieved definition. And the final definition is important and it is only a delay for justice, the restoration of justice and a final obstacle to justice.
Anchor
In the news today, there is a lot of talk about Amami Mitsubishi and our people are no stranger to it. I heard him several times and I also introduced him by the warship during the inauguration.
[강신업]Mitsubishi thinks like that. I have a Mitsubishi family. It was a family business, and the company grew with the growth of Japan in the 20th century. Then the big Mitsubishi was big during the war.
I make a plane, say, a plane and the book. That's why I was a criminal war company. The Mitsubishi car is out. It's a chaebol group with Mitsubishi insurers and that sort of thing.
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Right Once the scene left the company, the Supreme Court rendered its decision against Mitsubishi. Why not pay for it? Is the process smooth?
[강신업]Now, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and the Japanese government are firmly opposing. That is why we call a discretionary payment when you make a decision of this type. I will give it to you according to the decision. If you give me this, you will not be able to force it.
However, if you have Mitsubishi ownership in our country, you have heard the word "forced execution". It is said that it is easy, but there is not much in fact, there are more than goods in Japan and there are not many in Japan. our country.
Anchor
Did not he say that there was a case like the last Nippon Steel?
[강신업]We talk about it, but I must know it. If the property is here, it will be possible to seize it and complete the justice and justice rendered by force, otherwise I will have to go to Japan to enforce it. Otherwise, I would need the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan or the Japanese Government. .
But would you do it now? Therefore, I think it is difficult to complete the definition.
Anchor
Park Jae-hoon also said that the government wanted me to come, and does the government have any leeway to help me at the legal level?
[강신업]In the end, the government will have to continue negotiations with the Japanese government. In some cases, it will also be necessary to check if there is a Mitsubishi property in Korea. Again, if it can not be helped, then continue.
If that is the case, the government can start by paying some of the victims' families, and then plan for Japan at a later date, which of course should be discussed, but I think we should finally consider that.
Anchor
In fact, today 's decision was also influenced by the Supreme Court decision rendered last month. In this case, it is a subordinate. Are you going to be organically affected this way?
[강신업]Yes Shin Il-chul is the new Japanese steel. By the way, there are two pending in the Gwangju High Court. Thus, one is filed in 2014 and one in 2015, so that's likely to carry because it is in the pendant and is in the same well. But second and third. I can continue to sue in the future.
Whatever the case may be, according to the Supreme Court's intention, if you bring such a lawsuit, the victims or the victims will win.
Anchor
During the Japanese colonial period, when the country was wrong, these innocent people were killed and sacrificed. I wish that the present country can move and help me find wisdom.
[강신업]And the last, Japan, based on the example of Germany. I would like to have an example from Germany.
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Finally, you have highlighted a significant word. Today, I met with Kang Shin – yong 's attorney. Thank you
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