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This is a place called " Geumusha ". It is the only news agency in Korea. However, it was revealed that the officer reviewed the proposal of the war regime and the declaration of martial law at the time of the impeachment trial of former President Park Geun-hye last year . The wave length is one-sided. Professor Bae Jong Ho from Se-Han Han and Bae-Sung Lee, Policy Researcher How are you? Have you read the contents of the first two?
[인터뷰]Yes, I saw it.
Anchor
How did you see it?
[인터뷰]The title and content of the text reaches 8 pages Is this really an official document written by an official? This part is a bit strange. Indeed, when the official document is written by the GQC, it should be noted on the left or on the right that the security level and the process of writing the document must be written: it is rather a problem. informal document as an official document. So, I study the military prosecutor's office, who wrote this part about who wrote it and how it was reported. It is necessary to thoroughly study the content.
Anchor
As it was revealed by the document written by the cameraman, I will focus on the content. When impeachment is rejected, citizens by candlelight may be turned into angry citizens when dismissal is not made. So, to avoid that, I now plan to put tanks, special forces, and so on. There is a plan or a story, but what is it?
[인터뷰]This is how the army prepares for the conditional situation. Park Geun-hye did not attack the president's impeachment alliance on March 10th? If the dismissal of former President Park Geun-hye is rejected, the protests and anger of the people will occur, and the national demonstration and rally will take place.If there is confusion in the unpopular security Should I be ready? That's the content of the document.
There are many clues here, but the important thing is this sentence. If the martyrdom is carried out against the current situation, it is necessary to make a careful judgment because people think negatively, and if necessary, it is better to proceed gradually to the martial law and, if necessary, martial law and if necessary to martial law of urgency. That's the point.
Anchor
Right. Professor, as you told me now, there are sequential stories of Sungryeong and martial law.
[인터뷰]Thus, the question of whether there is a difference between sagittarius and martial law is the same as in the case of Sajeong-ri, which does not require the consent of the National Assembly. And usually, the army is stationed in a certain area. And the authority of the police officer in charge of the jurisdiction, and also the authority of the head of the local administration, and the army plays an auxiliary role in maintaining order In case of emergency martial law, the army will be deployed throughout the country. . So even civilians must be tried by military courts.
And, as you said, are the media not controlled by this plan? Then Colonel and colonel's clbad officers are sent to 24 government departments to take control of 24 departments. I am very shocked to see this, but as you know, then the president directly leads the country through the army. And it is very shocking that all jurisdictional rights are transferred to the army.
And in our history, it 's a very dark story, it' s about martial arts of urgency. So, is not there a revolution of 4.19? Even then, an emergency court martial was made, the former president of Rhee. And, unfortunately, this emergency court martial was shot down even in the military coup 5.16. And this martial law of urgency was imposed even when the president was reinstated after the presidential election. And when Park Chung – hee left the world because of unfortunate misfortune, he became a martyr of the day. emergency at 10:26. And did not the new military unit appear in the 12.12 military insurrection? And there was the 5.18 Gwangju mbadacre, and then there was an emergency court martial, which is a very shocking reason.
Anchor
I think it was closely related to power.
[인터뷰]It was exploited to suppress such political desires of legitimate people because of the internal political turmoil. So, it's a problem now because such circumstances are very suspicious.
Anchor
In fact, in the younger generations, this kind of scene is what we only see in movies hard to imagine. The 5.18 democratization taxi driver who beat the audience by 10 million last year, and it could be realized that this shocking public opinion came out. If the document was executed, if the document was executed, an army could come to the center of the city of Seoul, is that what it is?
[인터뷰]Yes. According to the documents, I will put a special price directly in the place of Gwanghwamun candle. And I will put another cavalry at Yeouido with the parliament. I have a specific military action plan like this one. And the name of the army, what kind of army send? So the seriousness of this document is that it is a concrete action plan that goes beyond simply reviewing the law just in case. If so, who created this document and why? I suspect that former President Park Geun-hye was in the indictment crisis at the time, and that the document was not drafted under the presidency. So, if the facts are revealed to the facts, it is likely that this problem will be widened by a wave.
Anchor
Who wrote what Bae said? That's the part. I was in the army, but I am responsible for the corruption and the security of the army. Why is this written? This is part of the survey once it is done, but is it appropriate for the delegate to write it?
[인터뷰]If it is written, it seems to be considerably monolingual. Because martial law requires the Chief of the Joint Chiefs to make a decision because the Chief Chief must mobilize troops. And when martial law is executed, it is pbaded by the State Council, and it receives the presidential award and executes it.
However, if you had to have a revision plan or a blueprint, it would seem to be pretty monogamous, and if you were to review a simple revision plan and send it to each subamendment. committee,
If our teacher can mobilize an army in Seoul, it will not be possible to do so even if it does not apply to the civil war or to part of the civil war that some are talking about. If you want to mobilize the army in Sungyeong-ri, you will be asked to accept the consent of the mayor of Seoul. This is why there is not much possibility that Park Won-Soon does not agree with the date of waking last year. If there was a martial problem, if martial law is declared, the type of army that will be mobilized is in the military plan.
That's why the contents that are specific are widely seen when I see it. Now, what types of troops are involved and where are they specifically? These problems are whether we use airborne troops to defeat our military plans, the mobilization of armored vehicles or tanks that talk about mechanized troops,
Anchor
There are obviously other perspectives, such as those seen by Seo. I'm going to talk to you if there are discussions going on while you're talking about it. First, is it a plan now or just a review? This part is also part of the political debate now. But there was a premise that the governor wrote this document and that the family had turned into an angry citizen, but it was not a peace agreement recognized by the world when the candle were recognized at that time? Was there a peaceful candlelight vigil as you said? So 17 million people were mobilized, but there was not a single illegal violence. So, is not it something that has been highly praised around the world? But why does this article presuppose the rejection of impeachment?
Now our leader says that he is a moon, but it's not a matter of moonlight, and it's illegal to look at me. Because it is not the authority to do it. That's what you should do in the JCS. The civil operations division of the JCS must be a civilian, and civilian martyrdom, such as intelligence, intelligence or investigation, seems to have a very intentional intention to write such a plan. And what was the situation at the time? The impeachment occurred because of candlelight vigils in the middle of the day, and on March 10
Anchor
arrived in March 2017.
[인터뷰]Yes. Is not it possible that former President Park Geun-hye became a parliamentarian on March 10, 2017, when he became a dismissal citation in the Constitution? However, this document is written at the beginning of March. So, is it true that the dancer did it alone? No, the security office of Cheong Wa Dae and Kim Kwan-jin, the Minister of Defense at the time of the Ministry, as well as the army headquarters and chiefs of state- joint major, to move the army.
But this is not a simple document. So, I think something like this is very well planned in advance.
Anchor
This document appears to have been written in March 2017, but before that, in November 2016, it was announced that it was necessary to investigate the truth and punish the person responsible Consequently. Has the chief representative of the Democratic Party already mentioned martial law?
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As you can see, the Cheong Wa Dae and the Sunni party at the time rebelled that it was an inducement very political. I think that is why the representative of the Military Commissioner heard relevant information from a source of information. How do you see it?
[인터뷰]This is the commemorative speech of November 18, and it is Friday. The time of this writing is March 2017. There are intervals of about four months. Therefore, I can not see that the Commissioner's representative made such a statement with the written documents later or with information. But surely. Because there is a story that the deputy leader prepares martial law according to the information as a representative of the opposition party at the time, if you l & # 39; said, you should have presented this particular information. Otherwise, it is close to an incentive to propaganda that precedes a simple demonstration. [인터뷰]
I have a totally different perspective: it's a somewhat irrational basis for going backwards. At that time, the chief minister made this remark and was rather politically troubled. It is that candlelight vigils arrive in the middle of the day, but I have received the accusation that the representative of the culprit is an emergency martyr and weakens the power of the evenings at candles. I also thought at the time that it was inappropriate to speak at that time, but when I spoke at that time, it was the November 18, 2016. And it is December 9, 2016 that the parliamentary elections of the former President Park Geun-hye were adopted. And candlelight vigils are at their peak.
Then, in the pbadport centered on Cheong Wa Dae at that time, we would have already thoroughly examined the present scenario. And in the process, when someone who got information from inside the process looks at the current situation, people have gathered in Gwanghwamun now and claim that the removal of Park Geun-hye is imminent. The ability to provide information is quite high. Otherwise, the chief representative has no reason to talk about it.
Anchor
A candlelight gathering was held in November 2016 to help viewers understand. I went there every weekend, and now I would like to repeat that this document was published in March 2017, about four months later. Now, the military prosecutors are investigating.
[인터뷰]If this document was originally written in the office of the officer, then the military prosecutor will be able to sue the military prosecutor's office. I can confiscate a delegate and find out if he exists on my computer. Lee Chul-hee, a member of the Democratic Party, seems to be able to accurately grasp the process of getting this document from Lee. If you look under the contents of this document, it is written in an abstract and general way, so who was educated by whom and for what purpose this document was written, and how the document was written up to which point? . This seems to be very important, is not it in March 2017 just before Park Geun-hye's impeachment decision?
Because Park Geun-hye was unable to function in Cheong Wa Dae because his work was suspended at that time. If the presidential authority of Hwangyang acted as a minimum duty, but that the Hwangsang administration did not seem to have ordered the consideration of such a situation, then the Minister of National Defense was the Minister of National Defense. I need to look at these things accurately to see if I've written this for a single review in the drive.
Anchor
If you want to ask a question to Professor Bae, do not hesitate to contact me. I want to give the same content. This is obviously because there are other perspectives, so I want to hear your opinion. I will tell you the truth. After the continuous impeachment, before the indictment, the whole country was in a period when the candle was very hot, and at that time, the document was written and written by the officer. It means that you are the one who came to the army and who is not there. This is the part of the army that occupies the position of the armed forces, and the question of how I wrote it voluntarily, which occupies a very high position. And you clearly see that the Blue House would not have intervened at that time. How do you see Bae?
[인터뷰]I am totally different from our head. Because if Cheong Wa Dae had not intervened, it looks like the governor has voluntarily done so independently. But the problem is that it is not the responsibility of the governor. It is the jurisdiction of the JCS. So why did the non-voluntary DSM consider the issue of urgency and that the issue of army mobilization on the premise of a riot is based on the rejection of indictment? So, if you want to be clear about this, then someone must be behind. Then, realistically, the Cheong Wa Dae security service manages such operations and manages the army headquarters. We also manage the command of the defense of water. If that is the case, there is a need for former President Park Geun-hye. And while there was a presidential authority in the Hwangshin era, former president Park Geun-hye remained in the residence, and former Park Geun-hye staff members were still in square.
So, it is very likely that when I look at this mechanistic situation, I would have seen it. So, sadly, the place of the Korean ambbadador, in fact, has not been a politician who has been revealed so far? Civilians also inspect and comment. It is therefore such an institution that is engaged in an illegal policy deeply involved in politics. So, there are enough such possibilities, so it is time to investigate the truth of the truth. This is fine. The FT is a civilian, so I do not have the right to investigate. When I look at this, the military prosecutors are also inadequate. The story is that the core of the mission is still in the senior military service, and in the main work. Then, in the end, the army is a Han Chong – soon, will you make the exact truth inquiry? Therefore, when I look at the issue, one must conduct a joint investigation with the civil prosecutors to know the exact truth.
Anchor
There are also many stories in politics related to this issue. I would like to comment on the case of Kim Sung Tae, the representative of the Korean party, once I said that. Kim Jong-Dae, a member of the ruling Ministry of Justice, must go to the hearing of the relevant authorities and go to the hearing.
[인터뷰]Judge Kim Jong Dae is known as a military expert. I've claimed two things. We must search for seizures, including the Cheong Wa Dae security office, the army headquarters, I must seek forfeiture. I have to do a hearing in the National Assembly. Because I think that the president of the presidential office of the Blue House will not be able to work because Park Geun-hye has been suspended. Then the military headquarters finally went to the presidential authority of Hwangyang. If so, what does it mean to seize the seizure of the security office of the Blue House?
Anchor
Would not we have to investigate if the instructions came down? The authority of Hwangyang, no matter who was there.
[인터뷰]So, rather than rhetoric by thoroughly investigating rhetoric, it would be possible to do everything from the source of the document to the station. Everything must be seized.
Anchor
You do not need to specify it from the beginning.
[인터뷰]If you do that, it can become more difficult to study. [인터뷰] [인터뷰]
In this part, I think that it is not the same in the second part. . Do not have the congressional audience at the time of Choi Soon-sil in the state agriculture? So many illegal facts have been revealed there? This problem is worse than that of Choi Soon – Sil. What do you mean by that, the scenario is that the army is mobilized to crush the right people now?
Anchor
In fact, there is the police when it comes to security. Is not the role of the military to protect civilians? I have a role to play in protecting the country.
[인터뷰]And I do not know how I feel so absurd when I look at him. The majority of people thought it would be dismissal, of course, and the document would dismiss the impeachment. And the majority of people thought it was peaceful, because they thought riots and victims were going out.
In this document, he is very clever and cunning, if you go to the martial emergency, there will be a national resistance, if you see the part of the guardian and the martial of emergency, that is 39 is very intentional.
So, from what I can see, I have to do with this, and the scope of the investigation is wide and it is not a problem. The rhetorical technique is what you do when you host the truth investigation. I have already told you, is there not a very painful story in our case? It is therefore time to take root for military coups and military revolts. To do this, I must completely punish the people involved with a thorough investigation of the facts, and the punishment should be punished with the highest level of psychic as long as the law allows.
Anchor
It seems very important that the person who gave the order and the process in which it was created really take precedence over the facts.
[인터뷰]If I add one more thing, does the government of Moon Jae Kim not hold the scheme now? This is why the president can conduct a thorough investigation of military power. If you tell them that you must abolish the reformer and the reformer, will the president decide and make the law and adopt it? That is why he is so concerned about such a problem that it is rather difficult for people to do it, and it seems like it is rather more effective to investigate one by one in depth according to the law. [인터뷰]
If you do not examine this part thoroughly, people are more uncomfortable with it. Because you do not know when a coup will happen. So we need to do a thorough investigation of the facts and make sure people are relieved. And there is another very important part about this case. It is the problem that we must put the boss in the original place according to the original function. I have 5,000 people now. But 600 people are enough.
There is also a high opinion that under the tutelage of the Department of National Defense, only the intelligence function should be exercised under the command of intelligence, The whole body is not a security guard before? I've done this part of the political temple and the political duties I've done, and I have to take root in this part of this opportunity so that it does not happen again in our history, I think.
Anchor
Yes. There is so much to do now. If you start this part of the discussion, you will have to spend too much time, so let's move on.
Let me talk about free Korean. President Hyundai's contest is closed tomorrow. Professor Lee is a professor and surgeon. I tried to leave this great president and I refused the proposal. How did you see it?
[인터뷰]It can be very figurative. Is Professor Lee Kuk-jong not a serious treatment center? However, the true freedom of the Korean government has gone beyond gravity, and now it is at a level where it is necessary to dismantle it. Now, the Korean Emergency Management Committee has a lot of things to do, but the most important is the problem of the human settlement of responsible people in the past, and the creation of value and political innovation for the new era. There several people in the study is the character still rising in strong progression, but even less jotgetdaneun of clear thinking fanned this chair hypertrophy innovative that encourages our politicians the new global change of the reform of the opposition then [19659005] Anchor [ [인터뷰] Once Professor Lee Kun-hee had not met Kim Seong-tae, the president of the Korean National Party, he had not thought about it m & # 39; met and rejected the proposal.
Anchor
There are many people who have rejected the proposal as well as teachers of this kind. Why do you continue to reject that? We prepared it graphically.
[인터뷰]So, I think that the former governor of Lee Hoi-chang is not a man of courtesy, and I do not intend to act as as Chief Justice Lee Jung-mi. And the oldest teacher too. Do not you say you do not do it now? But now I see that the target list is 36 people. The only one here to be the only one here is Kim Byeong-jun, former chief of Chong Wa Dae's politics.
What is the chairman of the emergency committee can save the Korean party in the future, and kill it in one way or another, and give full power, please save the Korean party which is the end of such a life. If you are such a person, and if you take 36 people and get a public consent on the Internet, which, in your opinion, will be polite with respect to you? Now, it seems like it's a very liberal Korean government.
자유 한국당 스스로도 정당 정당 라고 라고 하고 있는 에서 에서 분이 분이 분이 하지 않습니까 않습니까? 내가 거기 가서 치를 있느냐 라고 까지 하고 이런 인데 인데 제가 볼 때는 이렇게 이렇게 이렇게 것이 것이 정말로 을 을 을 분 분 을 을 을 을 아니라 아니라 아니라 아니라 아니라 초려 초려 초려 초려 이런 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 인데 이렇게 이렇게 이렇게 이렇게 이렇게 빼고 올 사람 이 있을지 의문 입니다.
앵커
안상수 비대 준비 위원장 이 히든 카드 많다고 했어요 했어요. 히든 카드 많이 아껴 놓고 있다. 과연 그 히든 카드 누가 관심 관심 떠오르는 떠오르는 떠오르는 이 있습니까 있습니까?
[인터뷰]제가 자세히 내용 을 잘 참신한 인물 인물 들 도 도 것 것 같고요. 우리 사회 에 알려진 인사 들 것 것 같은데 결국 은 교수님 말씀 하신 대로 누가 그것을 수용 것인가 것인가 것인가 이런 이런 보여 보여 보여 지는데 지는데 지는데 지는데 지는데 지는데 지는데 지는데 가 가 가 가 가 가 가 가 가 가 가. 왜냐하면 …
앵커
정치권 도 잘 알고 있고.
[인터뷰]본인 이 학자 출신 단지 인적 청산 이 뿐만 뿐만 보수 보수 가치 가치 가치 를 를 를 를 를 를 를 를 를 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요 하거든요. 그러면 김병준 교수 그동안 에 많은 철학과 철학과 을 연구 왔기 조금 조금 조금 스럽지 스럽지 이렇게 이렇게 싶은데. 결국 은 자유 에서 초려 해서 하면서 하면서 와서 전권 을 주게 되면 김병준 전 교수 교수 비대 을 을 을 자유 을 을 이름 도 도 도 도 도 도 도 도 도 도 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 하게 정책 정책 정책 정책 정책 하게 정책 정책 정책 하게 정치권 에 기회 하게 하게 것이다 것이다 이렇게 보여 집니다.
앵커
1965 당내 에서는 요법 으로 전 전 을 을 을 위원장 하자 하자 까지 까지 하 하 더라고요 더라고요.
[인터뷰]지금 언론 에서는 비대 위원장 위원장 위원장 누군가 누군가 관심 관심 이잖아요 이잖아요 이잖아요 이잖아요 이잖아요 이잖아요 이잖아요 이잖아요 그런데 자유 한국당 으로 비대 위원장 누군가 누군가 별로 별로 별로 하지 않아요 않아요. 이게 무슨 이야기 냐면 위원장 을 올 올 없는 없는 없는 인 거예요 거예요. 결국 우리 원장님 말씀 말씀 비대 비대 이 할 자유 을 을 을 시키는 시키는 아니 겠습니까 겠습니까 겠습니까 겠습니까? [시키려면인적인적이필요그러기인적인적을을하고위해서는위해서는친박친박을을을해야되거든요되거든요되거든요
그런데 안타깝게도 지금 자유 한국당 친박 과 파 비박 비박 비박 비박 정면 정면 정면 충돌 충돌 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 하는 계파 투쟁, 여기다 당권 투쟁 현상 까지 맞물려 있거든요. 그런 상황 에서 친박 에서는 전권 위원장 위원장 오면 그 을 자기들 자기들 자기들 사실상 사실상 될 될 것이다. 이런 의구심 을 갖고 있거든요. 그래서 비대 위원장 김성태 권한 대행 이 를 를 다 이 이 은 은 할 할 것이다 것이다. [반대할가또뭐냐하면하면은은이에계속계속거부권거부권하기하기지금지금자유한국당답답없는정당정당라고라고드리고드리고드리고싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다싶습니다[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[1965196519651965196519651965196519651965196519651965196519651965이나오게될지부분부분관심가지고지켜봐야지켜봐야것것같습니다마지막으로한가지주제만짚어보죠보죠장하성청와대정책실장조금인사개입을했다이런이런이있습니다있습니다어떤내용인지정리해주시죠
[인터뷰]과연 인사 에 한 거냐 단순히 추천 한 이 이 이 이 만약 에 했다고 책임 책임 책임 책임 져야 져야 고요 고요 고요 고요 고요. 본인 설명 대로 덕담 덕담 했는데 추천 그분 인사 인사 인사 에서 에서 을 을 했다 했다. 그러면 책임이 약간은 면피된다고 보는데 장하성 정책실장의 말을 들어보면 처음에는 추천한 게 아니라 덕담으로 말했다. 그러다 말바꾸기를 해서 전화 권유를 했는데 결국은 심사에서 무관하게 진행됐다 이렇게 얘기했거든요. 처음에는 본인이 추천한 게 아니다 그러다가 두 번째는 추천했다라고 밝혔습니다. 그리고 그 추천한 시점이 공교롭게도 올 1월이거든요. 그리고 국민연금 기금본부장이 공모가 난 게 2월입니다. 그렇기 때문에 아무래도 본인이 적극적으로 추천한 게 맞는 것 같고요.
청와대에서는 이게 인사검증에서 결국은 낙마했기 때문에 우리가 인사검증을 잘했다 이런 식으로 면피를 하려고 그러는데 이건 인사검증의 문제가 아니고 추천을 했느냐, 안 했느냐. 그리고 그게 추천을 넘어서 강제적으로 개입해서 소위 말하는 낙하산 인사를 했느냐 안 했느냐 이 문제가 문제의 본질이고 만약에 장하성 정책실장이 개입해서 공기업에 낙하산 인사를 보내려고 했다면 이것 또한 새로운 적폐다 이렇게 보여집니다.
앵커
청와대는 전화를 한 것은 사실이지만 이게 오히려 검증 시스템이 제대로 작동을 했다, 어쨌든 탈락했으니까. 이렇게 주장하고 있습니다.
[인터뷰]지금 청와대가 당초에 말을 해명을 했다가 바꾼 부분, 이 부분은 제가 볼 때는 좀 나이스하지 못한 부분 같고요. 그런데 지금 국민연금 기금운용본부장 이 자리가 굉장히 중요한 자리입니다. 즉 이게 뭐냐하면 2200만 명, 635조의 국민연금을 다 총괄 책임지는 그런 자리거든요. 그래서 한마디로 국민들의 노후자금의 최후의 보루다. 이런 부분이어서 굉장히 중요한 역할을 하고 있는데 실제로 과거에 최순실 국정농단 사태 때 보면 여기에 책임자가 제대로 역할을 못 한 것으로 드러났지 않습니까? 그래서 전 정권에서 두 명이나 불명예 퇴진했거든요.
그리고 이 두 명이 경제부처 장관이라든지 또는 청와대 경제수석하고 고등학교, 대학교 동문 이런 부분이 있어서 아마 청와대에서는 이번에 정말로 중요한 적임자를 모셔와야 한다라는 그런 강박관념이 있었던 것 같아요. 그래서 장하성 실장이 실제로 전화해서 지원을 내라라고 권유한 것은 맞는 것으로 드러났고요. 본인도 인정을 했고. 그렇지만 또 결과적으로 어쨌든 간에 이 사람이 낙마를 했는데 왜 낙마했느냐라는 것과 관련해서 7대 인사 기준에 치명적인 결함이 뭔가가 있다는 것 아니겠습니까? 그래서 계속 의혹이 된다면 차라리 지금 청와대나 이쪽에서는 그 사람 명예를 생각해서 밝히지 않겠다라고 하지만 차라리 밝히든지 아니면 여야 대표들을 불러서 제가 볼 때는 설명을 하든지 이런 부분이 필요하지 않나 이런 생각이 들고요. 차제에 굉장히 심혈을 기울여야 해야 될 인사임에도 불구하고 어떤 절차의 의혹을 받을 그런 행동을 하지 않는 것이 맞겠다 이런 생각입니다.
앵커
이제 국회가 일을 좀 해야 할 텐데 특활비다 뭐다 쟁점 사안들은 많고 진전이 잘 이뤄지지 않고 있습니다. 다음 주에는 상황이 어떻게 좋아질까요? 어떻게 보십니까?
[인터뷰]이제 20대 국회 하반기 원 구성이 아마 다음 주에 될 것 같은데 되면 20대 국회가 후반기에 제대로 돌아갈 것 같습니다. 지금 현재 18개 상임위원회가 있는데 민주당, 자유한국당, 바른미래당, 평화와 정의의 모임. 배분이 되어 있는데 똑같은 숫자들을 배분하기로 했고요.
문제는 국회의장과 국회 부의장 문제. 어떻게 해결할 것이냐 문제인데 아마 다음 주 되면 원내대표들 간에 어느 정도 합의가 이루어졌기 때문에 국회가 정상화가 되지 않을까 싶습니다. 지금 현재 민주당이 상임위원회 8개, 자유한국당이 7개, 바른미래당이 2곳, 그다음에 평화와 정의당이 1개인데 이 숫자대로 하기로 했고요. 2개 특별위원회를 신설하게 되면 아무래도 두 자리가 더 생기기 때문에 평화와 정의 아니면 민주당에서 가져갈 가능성이 있다라고 보여집니다.
이제 국회의장은 민주당에서 맡을 것으로 예상이 되고 두 자리 국회 부의장이 있는데 자유한국당과 바른미래당이 맡지 않을까. 이렇게 되면 국회의원들의 전체 상임위 배분도 이루어지게 되면 국회가 정상화되지 않을까 이렇게 기대를 해 봅니다.
앵커
이제 그만 개점휴업 이런 이야기 듣고 싶습니다. 진짜 일하는 국회 보고 싶은 게 모든 국민들의 소망인 것 같습니다.
[인터뷰]정말 국민들의 따가운 눈총을 의식했으면 좋겠습니다. 제대로 일하는 국회를 지금 국민들이 보고 싶거든요.
앵커
알겠습니다. 이렇게 정리하도록 하겠습니다. 세한대 배종호 교수, 또 바른정책연구원 서성교 원장과 이야기 나누어 봤습니다. 고맙습니다.
[인터뷰]감사합니다.
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