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I hear that we are very sick in such a situation, so even in the eyes of families,
[인터뷰] That's right, I do not know . Can we understand the explanations of the children's home from the point of view of the family? You two have said enough before.So I believe that everything in the child's house is responsible for everything that I sent, but I sent it back to the cold body.
You both said earlier, but when I saw it, I think it was a talent that lacked the typical safety consciousness. Could it be possible to confirm at least three times now?
Because there are only 20 children, not 30, but only 9, when the first goes up and down. Of course, the tutor says it.
The other is that even if the apprentice missed, the person who parked it, the driver parked and locked the door. It's an act of ordinary people to turn around once in a while.
The third thing is that if you do not have children when you check your attendance, it is natural to call the parents and ask them why they did not show up.
However, it is impossible to accept from the point of view of the family members who are now. All you can do with these three types of security checks is that there are holes. If you look from this point of view, it is a total talent, as I have already said.
Anchor
This family also tells this story. Where is the car without the black box these days?
[인터뷰] This is what means that the child wears a belt, or under what circumstances, we must check if we have missed it. The black box has a black box that can not be taken outside depending on the model but not inside. And there is also a function that does not record the sound in it. I do not know what to say, but I do not have any questions about it.Then we must ask negligence for things that the teacher has not confirmed, the driver has not confirmed, the role that the main teacher does not. has not confirmed, and we have to go to school,
Why do we have to do this, for example. Because there is so much abuse on children, what happens if there is no child in school? If you do not have a child coming to kindergarten, be sure to check if your absence is prolonged.
If this kid had not come home today, he should check with his parents to check his presence, but he did not do it.
Well, in any form whatsoever, now that the police are considering an application for arrest warrants, it's a theoretical first, so let's just say that it's from a review, we will take the arrest warrant, of course.
Anchor
Whatever the case may be, the police are in such a situation that they are now making quite a few steps. These stories are coming out. Once you get the exact cause of death.
And a preschool official said that there was an irresponsible party, and he plans to consider a warrant application. And I explained it.
That's why I'm going to do some kind of research like checking out the child care teachers, I do not know why. "
[인터뷰] That's right, I do not know how to do it, but I do not know why.I can not understand at all.Whatever the kindergarten, the most important thing is now four years old.The parents are the most nervous when they leave a child of 4.That is why the most important check for parents is to know if they have been properly enlisted, if you have neglected them, if you do not have 10 or more, that is 10 people.
So that can not be a reason for that. Exactly, that's right. Now that you've talked about child abuse, there are more than 10 reasons to check in. Therefore, it now seems that the charge of manslaughter should be applied.
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The lawyer Kim Tae-hyun, I think you should look at this part: How was the punishment when there was such a car accident in the past?
Punishment of the Teacher In 2016, when a 3 year old child was left alone in the waiting room, there was an accident that caused the board to fall. A fine of 4 million won was awarded to the teacher. And in July, a four-year-old was left in a heat wave in Gwangju for eight hours on a kindergarten bus.
By the way, the Supreme Court sentenced me to five to eight months in jail. What about this time?
[인터뷰] By the way, it's a lot of variables in terms of penalties. It is therefore important to know if the victim is dead or injured, then the extent of the fault, or what was the probability of the accident of the victim when I made this mistake.And most importantly, the fact that these two factors, that they have reached an agreement, will result in a fine of four million won in both cases and five to eight months in the safe.
Because the case of Guangzhou, the child is injured, is still alive, but this time the child is dead. It's a huge difference.
So I can not get a structure for the room where I left the child alone, I do not know how to do it. I do not know, but there is a difference between the predictability of the possibility that the child may die when the child is alone when the child is alone and the possibility that the child can die because of breathing when he is alone. . That is why this case will be much more punishable than the two previous cases
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A tragic tragedy that a four-year-old girl hides in a car. These accidents occur very often in summer. It'll be fine for a minute, it's a problem. See the following tag
How to protect my child, it will go for a second, I do not think you should think about it. Most people who raise babies If they are at the back when they are at the back, they go to the market in 5 minutes. Few months ago.
In fact, it is a country called Guam, because the island itself is subtropical, and it's a bit like that.
Now that the temperature is above 30 degrees each day, the reporter is already out, but the temperature inside the vehicle will rise sharply. So, I think we should be very aware of this incident that we can have a terrible result in such a small state of mind that only 10 minutes or 20 minutes would be acceptable.
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] Problems in the vehicle during a heatwave. It is said that it is very bad for our human body. Almost all body functions are ruined.
[오한진 / 을지대병원 가정의학과 교수 : (어린아이는 더 심하겠지만, 보통 사람이면 어느 정도 차 안에 있으면 이건 한계라고 봐야 할까요?) 우선 30분도 견디기 어렵습니다 , 사실. 물론 어른 같으면 체온을 조절하는 기능이 있으니까 여러 가지 역할을 할 수가 있지만, 아이들은 더더욱이 차가 닫혀있거나 하면 이걸 작동하는 법도 잘 모르고 문을 열 수도 없으니까 이런 일을 당한 건데요. 차속의 온도가 심할 경우에는 거의 80도 이상 올라가는 걸로 돼 있습니다. 이렇게 되면 계란이 다 익을 정도가 되는 거니까 사람 몸도 마찬가지고요. 우리 몸 내부 온도가 40도를 넘기 시작하면 단백질 변성이 오거든요. 단백질이 익기 시작하는 거예요, 쉬운 말로 하면. 이렇게 되면 몸속에 있는 모든 기능이 망가지는 거죠. 그래서 차속 같은 데서는 1시간 이상 있었다고 하면 상당히 심각합니다. 절대로 차안에 아이가 있는지, 사람이 있는지를 확인하고 문을닫든지 하셔야 합니다.]
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It would be a crime to let your child ride in the car up to 80 degrees.
[인터뷰] If it is a commercial fault, if it hurts, it will be punishable by a loss of business, and if you die after that, you will be punished for negligence.But the perception is still weak compared to the United States and other developed countries. In the case of Guam mentioned above, the judge of our country may not think that it is the punishment in the hour when parents leave the child in the car and the child is not injured, but is not in the United States [19659004] The protection of these children, or the perception of these, is very important for law enforcement agencies or the higher bodies that apply the law.
That's why we have such a system, but the perception of those who run it. Recognition of investigative bodies, recognition of judicial authorities. And most importantly, parents who need to raise and take care of their children, teachers.
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There are many voices coming out, and this system needs to be changed and introduced again.
[인터뷰] Unfortunately, the report came out in front of the Guangzhou case in 2016, and the same thing happened at that time. Let's do what then. It was a security bell. I've installed a safety bell on all the vehicles, and then the checkout system for sleeping children, which I've already talked about, has a button on the back of the desk. The teacher must therefore check all the buttons before pressing the last button. ] But now I am sorry to tell you that it was two years ago. Therefore, I hope that it will become like a movement that can be spread more clearly this time, which can form a consensus across the country.He goes to training and leaves him next to his child. When you burn
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I will show you again the last graph I showed you a moment ago. I hope you will remember.
That's why I'm distributing these things to the police station, it's the best way to hear the horn when children are trapped in a car. I have to ride on my hips and raise my horn to the kids, I think if you educate like that, the kids can ring the horn in case of emergency. Remember it please.
Let me go to the next news. Drink the reins. Who holds the reins for?
What is the truth of 50 million won? Mr. Cha, we just told the spokesman of the Korean Chamber of Justice last May, just like Chung Jae-won's spokesperson, the subject of the special investigation is currently the chairman of the bureau Roh Roh
[인터뷰] Can be a bit of an event. Is this the purpose of the Special Rapporteur's launch?Perhaps in the context of the special position of the heir, I would like to point out that in the case of a special investigation, it is a creature, so when I look at the heir, investigation, I see that this case was discovered, but when I thought about it, I think the person who played an important role
Dommo's lawyer is a key aid to Druke and knows the whole story of this case.
Nevertheless, now that he has received 50 million won in the money, this is not the case that he has received the money from a amount of 50 million won
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The fact that Huck-Bum Kim spoke to us from the beginning revealed that we had no evidence
[인터뷰] I have some statements about people involved. Thus, the content of the related party declaration is almost the same as the previous spokesman for the Korean government in Chungcheong Province, briefed on May 9.When I gave a lecture, I delivered 20 million won, It is said that we collected about 30 million won and 26 million won to collect money again .
I told him to give it to his wife's driver. The driver was also a member of the contest.
Do not you continue to tell me that this part of the case was the subject of an investigation by the prosecution once in 2010 before the l & # 39; 39, a special investigation was opened and the charge was dismissed without charge? [Yong-Chan] 19659004] However, what this lawyer is bound to do, is that even when the charges were dismissed at the time, Druking, who had been charged with the misdemeanor notice, was not allowed to do so. a lawyer, presented two pieces of evidence to the prosecution.
Then I put it in the bank account with a deposit notice, two pieces of evidence. So, what are you saying? Look at this, we tried to do it, no, you do not have a legislator, we just put it on your account, this picture is money.
So the prosecutor, oh, and that 's all I gave for money. I denied that I received it. That's why I was arrested on suspicion, but this time the special position is that everything has been manipulated.
This picture is another picture of the money, and the account I deposited is not the money that I got trying to forward it to advise, but that's another money. So what about the prosecution? A lawyer manipulates the evidence and is suspended?
If a court ordered a warrant, it would have been impossible for the court to claim that the claim was somewhat credible, and it would appear that he received the money
Anchor
Park Sang-hyeon, a specialist in the press, said, "I do not think it's possible for a special summoner to come back to Korea after returning home, I explained to you. Let's take a look.
Even when the attorneys falsified the evidence, it was the law of the state's drunkenness elections that the lawyer had been accused of transferring some of the funds to some politicians.It was said that it was the judgment of a special prosecutor who had played a major role in the decision not to file a complaint.If you look at the History of Park Sang-hyeong special report, he said that he played a major role in the decision not to prosecute If it was not counterfeit, the result could have been different, do you see this special investigation?
[인터뷰] And the special prosecutor now expresses Park Sang-yeong. This was not just a statement, but also an account for funding.Then, the lawyer, whom you mentioned before, would charge you this time, even if you forgave the evidence at that time, and in fact, you will be accused of that.
Maybe Drew King's statement will play a decisive role, but I totally agree with Professor Cha, and that's why I did it specimen at the beginning. Is not it true that you have an agreement with a consul general? Governor Kim Kyung Su. To target it, we see that it is not such an operation to secure the recruitment of a lawyer
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M. Tae Hyun Kim, political fund method. I do not know if this happens in the context of the investigation to see if it is true, but what will be the penalty if the amount is about 50 million won?
[인터뷰] Well. A precise punishment is hard to say, but it's less than a bribe of about 50 million won. If you have money in politics, you have to pay for it.So, if you get money, you have to put it in your political fund account and you have to declare all the money that you do not have, we call it illegal political funds. If it's guilty, well, maybe even the council chair is a problem.
Anchor
There is no change in President Roh's position. I have therefore repeatedly told reporters that I had not received the money and that the money would not come back.
[인터뷰] I do not think so. It is not only a matter of knowing how many political funds will be paid from the level of 50 million won, but rather, depending on whether the claims will be finalized or not, it is important to take into account not only life Senator Roh's policy,After the local elections this time, the free government of Korea is caught inside, and now the approval rate is catching up and it's is possible to return quickly. In other words, during the last local electoral process, when the first opposition party quoted by the ruling party arrived at the stage where it is possible to meet the demand, it is true that President Roh is qualified as a party representative. If you say that you are exposed to the situation of justice, you will be forced out of nowhere. First of all, what is the party in power?
However, the representative Roh told me that since the month of May, he has never received his case even when the incident was canceled. How will these parts be widely accepted by the public? [상당한배신감그런됐을때는이지지율뿐만아니라진보가데도데도벽벽가로막셈셈셈셈되는되는되는거죠거죠거죠거죠
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이 정도 의 혐의 스스로 거취 결정 하라 당 지도부 가 가 으로 을 을 표명 표명 표명 한다는 한다는 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 측 [[[[[[[[[[[[[양측이공방공방벌이고벌이고있어요있어요
하지만 지금 의 으로 봤을 때 때 들의 목소리 더 더 더 것 것 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 같아요 그래서 정의당 을 살려야 한다. 1965 좀 더 지켜봐야 지켜봐야 지켜봐야 것 것 당 당 당 [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요고요한국당이야기를끝으로해보겠습니다김병준호가취임초기부터지금흔들리고있습니다있습니다[접대의혹에휩싸였는데였는데이게이게만11[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[그러니까작년여름강원강원에서리조트리조트리조트있지있지않습니까?당시강원랜드는는대표고초청프로암프로암프로암에에받았다는받았다는거예요거예요[교수뿐만다른유력인사많이많이을을것것같아요같아요
그런데 1 인당 116 만 원 정도 가 나왔다. 그러니까 김영란 법 위반 이다. 참고 로 말씀 김병준 당시 교수 김영란 김영란 의 당시 이고 정도 정도 정도 받으면 받으면 되 되 잖아요. 그래서 올 3 월 에 강원 랜드 제보 국민 국민 권익 위에 위에 된 겁니다 겁니다. [강원경찰청내사내사했다는했다는겁니다겁니다
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만 116 만 원. 내사 를 했다는 거예요, 4 개월 동안. 강원 경찰청 에서 입건 을 해서 해서 해서 해서 해서 해서 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다 겁니다. 본격 수사 전환 으로.
김병준 교수 는 뭐라고 하느냐 면 나는 나는 몰랐 몰랐 는데. 내사 받은 줄 몰랐고 몰랐고 전혀 몰랐어 라는 라는 를 를 합니다. 함승희 전 대표, 당시 강원 랜드 은 은 뭐라고 했느냐 했느냐 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면 면. 골프 비, 식사비, 기념품 비 합쳐서 만 만 100 100 100 [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[올올올올올올올올에서에서에서에서에서에서에서에서에서에서에서에서4개월동안내사비대비대취임취임하자마자이걸터트려?이거정치공작아니야?이런이야기를하는거죠지금현재상황은그렇습니다
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어쨌든 김병준 김병준 조금 말씀 하신 것처럼 초대 초대 받아서 간 건데 건데 김영란 김영란 위반 거야 하고 들었다고 들었다고 들었다고 입장 입장 습니다 습니다 습니다 습니다 습니다 습니다 습니다 습니다 잠시 들어 보시죠.
[인터뷰] 접대 라고 하기엔 좀 곤란 하고요. 말하자면 프로 라운드 에 초대 를 받았습니다. [시합을프로프로프로가가가가그그그[[[[[[[[[[[갔습니다갔습니다갔습니다갔습니다갔습니다갔습니다[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[없습니다없습니다없습니다없습니다없습니다없습니다없습니다없습니다없습니다[프로라운드에를번번오는정도그그이이이김영란청탁청탁청탁[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[범위범위범위를를를를를를를를를를넘지않는그법의를를않는범위있다고를를를그것그것저는저는모르죠모르죠그래서한번기다려주십시오앵커
일단 나는 초청 받아서 갔는데 문제 해서 건데 건데 건데 당황 당황 스럽다 이런 이런 이런 이런 이런 이런 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 같은데요 스럽다 스럽다 스럽다 스럽다 스럽다. 어떻게 따져봐야 될까요?
[인터뷰] 아마 김병준 비대 위원장 에서는 억울한 억울한 억울한 이 이 것 것 같아요 같아요. [입장에서는이교수신분은사실사실한국당얘기얘기얘기하냐면신분신분신분맞지만맞지만와와연관성연관성없기법이야기이야기이야기측면도측면도있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요있고요[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[만를하지만대회를했던에서한다고한다면골프골프과식사을을그것그것하면하면하면하면한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한한[나머지기념품협찬협찬협찬받았다는것이죠것이죠협찬 을 과연 계산 으로 하느냐 마느냐 이 도 상당히 이 것인데 어쨌든 그러나 지금 지금 한국당 입장 입장 입장 입장 입장 에서는 에서는 에서는 에서는 에서는 에서는 에서는 수장 수장 수장 수장 것이죠 것이죠 것이죠 것이죠 것이죠 것이죠 [[[[[[[[식으로이렇게실정법위반으로에휩싸였다는만만하더라도상당히보면보면을을수수있는찬물끼얹는사항사항발생한발생한사실사실사실맞는것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[으로든경찰이앞서김태현말씀하신것처럼쭉내사오다가왜시점시점시점불거불거느냐본다고의심의심의심의심의심의심의심의심의심의심것이죠것이죠것이죠것이죠[은이에대해서하게하게시일시일결론내려야할할가가생각생각합니다합니다합니다합니다
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문제 가 가 안 이 이 를 떠나서 이 이 이 이 이 은 은 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 더라고요 [은보통김영란따질따질들어갑니까갑니까갑니까?
[인터뷰] 그러니까 협찬 이라고 빼자 는 거 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 그게 주장 이 다른 건데. 이 수사 가 보세요. 돈 얼마 인지 금방 나옵니다. 이거 뭐 대단한 거라고, 영수증 보면 얼마 든지 비용 비용 나오 나오 잖아요. 협찬 한 걸 빼야 하느냐, 안 빼야 되냐. 국민 권익 이 해석해 해석해 판단 판단 은 금방 됩니다. [이면끝나는거거든요그런데 강원 경찰청 에서 에서 하셨 하셨 아니면 아니면 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 있고 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 나온다 1965 자유 한국당 입장 말 말 그렇 그렇 그렇 그렇 [
예 를 들어서 박근혜 정부 시절 에 민주당 민주당 예 들어서 그 김상곤 김상곤 김상곤 김상곤 위원장 위원장 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 잖아요 [[새정치비대위원장이었거든요김상곤비대위원장취임취임때이게만약만약건이건이터졌다그러면당시에이런얘기안하겠어요?하죠강원지방경찰청저는수사수사진행하는방식저는저는이이이되기는해요해요하려면진작하든지
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들이 부분 은 를 사람 사람 프로암 프로암 프로암 프로암 에 에 에 에 왔던 왔던 왔던 왔던 왔던 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 수가 거죠 거죠. 그렇기 때문에 아마 김병준 비대위원장을 특정해서 제보를 했다기보다는 강원랜드에서 VIP들을 모시고 한 비용 자체가 김영란법을 위반했다고 이야기하는 바람에 그 100명이 넘는 그 대상자들에 대해서 이 사람들이 대상인지 아닌지를 아마 가리는 데 상당한 시간을 소요했다는 것이 경찰의 변명인 것 같아요.
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이종근 실장님도 얘기해 주시죠.
[인터뷰] 저도 한 가지만 말씀을 드리면 프로암대회라는 건 프로와 아마추어가 함께 대회를 하는 건데 KLPGA가 주최예요. 지금 강원랜드가 주최라고 자꾸 말씀하시지만 강원랜드는 하이원 리조트의 스폰서거든요.KLPG에서 프로대회를 열 때마다 사실 첫 번째 날이 오픈이고 두 번째 날에 프로암대회라는 걸 열어요. 그러면 프로암대회는 언제나 초청을 하거든요. 이렇게 따지면 사실 모든 골프협회에서 주최하는 프로암대회를 전부 다 털어야 해요, 이제는.
왜냐하면 다 초청이기 때문에. 그러니까 정확하게는 이게 얼마다라는 것을 다시 조사를 해보긴 해야겠지만 프로암대회가 과연 접대냐라는 성격은 좀 더 다시 규정해 봐야 한다는 거죠.
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알려진 시점에 대해서는 한국당이 오비이락 이런 표현도 썼는데 조금은 섭섭한 부분도 있을 수 있다, 이렇게 보십니까?
[인터뷰] 그건 너무 사실 당연한 게 아닐까요. 그러니까 지금 아무리 말씀을 그렇게 하시더라도 100명 가까운 사람 중에 특정하지 않았더라도 그러면 그 사람만 어떻게 또 그날, 취임하는 날 이렇게 문제를 삼아서 보도가 될 수 있는지 그건 어떤 특정하다는 것, 100명 가까운 사람 중에 특정해서 저렇게 보도가 됐다는 것, 그것도 역시 사실 자유한국당 입장에서는 이거 진짜 오비이락이다라고 말할 법합니다.앵커
이런저런 논란을 끝으로 훈훈하게 마무리하자면 혁신비대위원장이기 때문에 그만큼 국민들이 날카로운 시선으로 보고 있다, 이렇게 마무리를 하면 되겠습니까?
[인터뷰] 그렇죠. 국민들 입장에서는 자유한국당이 혁신하려는 입장에 있기 때문에 상당히 기대치 높이가 상당히 높은 것이죠. 그러다 보니까 이러한 아주 사소한 부분처럼 보일 수 있지만 이 부분에 대해서 명쾌한 해명이 필요한 것이 사실인 거죠.앵커
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