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Professor, I was a little ahead of the Democratic Party. I have a convention on August 25th. Lee Hae-chan, Kim Jin-pyo and Song Young-gil won the ticket, as planned?
[인터뷰]There is some expectation, but there is considerable confusion. That's what we talked about, eight in total, four in the last two years before the convention, but this time we have eight.
As you know, I was afraid to present myself at the meeting of Minister Kim, but I did not run at the end: Mr. Lee did not not decided to show up for the last time? There was also an operation that I noticed, so I thought that there might be a variable, but the conclusion was as expected.
So, this election campaign is a non-consensual opinion. The power of Lee Hae-chan is mainly Chung Mi-ae, Kim Bum-cheong and Lee Jae-myung. In the case of Kim Jin-pyo, the former president of the National Assembly. It is said that the member of the Electoral Commission who is clbadified as the key power of the prosecution. And in the case of Rep. Song Young-Gil, I beat him a vote difference two years ago at the cut.
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As you have said, the competition was very fierce at the last minute, but the ranking of votes, how much I did not know if I had the ticket.
[인터뷰]Unpublished. The Central Committee was originally 440 members. But 405 of them participated in the vote. But maybe there are several reasons. For example, if you open it, there may be a political blow for candidates who are not among the top three. And on August 25, you play the finals.
But now, three of us are participating in the final this time, and I think we have a very strong personality right now. So, I think it is the representative of Lee Hae-chan who is very representative, and the person who is able to handle the party stably in the future is the mainstream. Moreover, it is not the 7th line. And I did the contest and did not make it short. And the prime minister.
Even in the case of Kim Jin-pyo, I was also the Department of Education and Human Resources Development and the Deputy Prime Minister. I was Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of the Ministry of Strategy and Finance. It was the Ministry of Finance at the time. So I have a pretty good deal and I know a lot about the economy.
In the case of representative Song Young-gil, is not he the youngest? I hope so that these young people were eaten. And as you already said, you dropped out of the preliminary competition two years ago. So I made a lot of preparations after that. So, I also heard that I persuaded many people to contact the person to person practically.
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I think we should run for the remaining period of one month until August 25th of the National Convention. Which parts should I watch?
[인터뷰]Once a preliminary competition has taken place, there are 440 preliminary candidates with the difference between the main committee and the main committee. The members of the central committee are members of the National Assembly, members of the out-of-district delegations, leaders of these people, but as you said, this election concerns the whole party, the general party, party member, delegate, general public and opinion polls. So, things can change. So, what is essential is that the Blue House is very important in the end.
But the president of the presidential office, Moon Jae-in, does not directly reflect his intentions, but in the end, In the third, there are three candidates, so it is very important that two of the three candidates stand in solidarity, and how to check the candidates. This means that in the past, the New Democratic Party, in the 1970 presidential election, YS won first place, but second place DJ and Lee Chul-seung stood and overturned and Kim Dae-jung was been elected as the presidential candidate.
Another thing is that it is very important that the generation change blows. Now Lee Chan and Kim Jin Pyo.
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In the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party is becoming a member of the Democratic Party,
[인터뷰]There are many opinions that you can not run for the last day if you like Lee Hae-chan. The reason is that I had the will to run, and I think so. As young as you are young politicians in the same way, it is not good to compete with them, so it seems like they finally decided to go in the form of a supporter. to represent them.
So, in fact, I am the leader of the pros and cons, and I am the chairman of pros and cons. Because it's known as the core of friendship, when I look at it, 45% of right-handers are on the main board. I vote with ARS. And the delegate of the delegation in Korea, the delegate of overseas Koreans vote by email, that is 45%. So, finally, 85% of the delegates or party members have it. I think it would be very different depending on the choice of the active member of the delegate or the outpatient district delegate because they have a lot of issues in the delegate and the right party member.
So, I would rather have the Tong Ji Qing Stable, or the economy, I know it very well, and I am deeply involved in things like work. Kim Jin-pyo, who has been involved since the beginning of the regime. Or at least we should go with a new person, the Democratic Party. And it's the song that can have a very active power. This can be a generation change wind. I think when I look at it personally, it's not easy for someone to become a major.
Anchor
Who's Professor Ba?
[인터뷰]If you are talking about a certain person here, she is fine The other two would hate him. When I look at this, I think the most important thing when I see the Blue House and the Democratic Party, is who can get the public opinion of the people. For, until now, President Moon Jae-in has continued to cross more than 70% of the high seas, but there are so many emergency signals on the economy.
And, secondly, the representative system that was launched this year is the issue of general elections in 2020. It is important to note that,. So this part is important, who is the right person to lead the victory in the general election. And the third and most important is who can integrate with President Moon Jae-in. In the Democratic Party, which is actually dominated by popular politics, I think a lot about the part of someone who is able to fit well with President Moon Jae-in, considering all three aspects.
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Let's move on to the next topic. This is a breaking news on martial law documents. Today, the Special Investigation Service of the Department of National Defense convened Sook Kang, a former director of the TF team who drafted the martial law documents, as a suspect . This continues the intense investigation.
[인터뷰]Once I was deputy chief of staff of Gangwon Province, I was the deputy head of the 5th Division. But now, there were two TF linked to martial law documents and two temple TFs related to Seowall's family. I led them both. So, once I had a confiscation on the 25th, I was convicted of a warrant crime.
But now, with regard to martial documents, is there a preliminary conspiracy or a preliminary conspiracy to military rebellion? However, once the criminal charges and criminal charges were hindered in the exercise of an abuse of authority, they were identified and called as suspects. So, whether the military rebellion is a preliminary conspiracy or not, I think the special committee now thinks that crime is almost a criminal act itself.
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Today, I summoned a member of the Gangwon Supervisor to investigate the case. Yesterday, did not you investigate Brigadier General Guyujin? And I forbid the departure of the former Minister of National Defense Han Min-gu How many people do you have in total?
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Is the most important document not related to martial law? So, it is already out that the former Minister Minh-Koo gave instructions, through various statements. That is why the former Minister Han Min-Guk told the commander of Cho Hyun-cheon, and the commander-in-chief spoke to the practitioner, who was most directly involved in the process. I am therefore the deepest participant of the company. So, I am already investigating these two suspects and I am above the other ten.
The staff members involved. There are civil servants and civil servants in charge of civil servants. I did not pay for it. But the two most crucial are the suicide leaders who are now seeing criminal activity recognized.
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As for the former Minister Han Min-koo, what was the meaning of the conspiracy to denounce him?
[인터뷰]I believe the martial law documents that were revealed in violation of the law. This was not only a violation of the law, but also a violation of the Constitution. I think you look at it like that. Now, Sookwangwon and Gwoojin have already become suspects, once these people have come to the forefront of the investigation, the story is that these people are now soldiers, so they do not have still been in the private sector. Thus, the former Minister of National Defense, Han Min-gu, and then the police chief Cho Hyun-cheon. This person is also a civilian. Then Minister Han, a former Minister of National Defense, would have had no upper limit. So Kim Kwan-jin, former head of national security.
Now, the most important thing is why you wrote such a document in a non-legal department. And it seems to me that the fact that I wrote a concrete plan of action based on a coup d'etat is now somewhat targeted by the forces of order. Reported.
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It is from a perspective of a situation in which the investigation is going to be conducted in such a way that the investigation can not be made. There is such a flow that rolls.
[인터뷰]I attended the National Defense Commission and did not do much work. So the most important part of the content is that age is not a big thing. And at that time, I reported about 20 minutes at the time of reporting, but Song Young-min reported about five minutes, I'm talking about that. So, I'm lying perfectly about this part. Colonel Min Byeong-sam, who was commander-in-chief of 100, spoke about it and it became a workshop. There is a document that Colonel Min Byung Min has published. However, if the document itself is a document, the meeting took place that day, and he wrote a handwritten note.
However, in the document, it is said that the waking time is not different as I have already mentioned. If you look at the credibility of this document itself, you may have said that Song Young-moo lied to you, but Song Young-min never really said that, and the document itself is false . So, the fact is that he is so sharp and confronted, and why did the commander of Minister Byeong Sang Min, who came to the governor's side, say that?
He has a very strong commitment of Song Young-moo on the reform of the army. So it was not a reduction, but at first it was going to be completely abolished, and it was very hard for the river. So in the end, there is a fierce battle between the commander and the secretary of defense.
Anchor
But why did the minister reveal minutes containing the words of Defense Minister Song Young-moo in the National Assembly, which all the people see? What is the background?
[인터뷰]This part is a very wild thing, but it's staggering. I do not think it's a declaration of conscience or part of the protection of my organization. Because this is not the key point.
If you look at this, then I think it sounds like that.
So, Song Hyung-moo, Minister of National Defense There is something wrong with this person regarding his behavior. First, the issue of not reporting related documents to the Blue House in a timely manner remains a problem, and the other is that I am not currently the Minister of Defense. Then the governor should be well governed, but anyway, the situation is very messy now. And even when it is seen by ordinary people, the military is a special clbad society of the same name, and how do men rush towards the defense secretary in a public place like this? Is it really military or not? As the question of whether or not the Defense Minister, Song Yong-moon is able to carry out the defense reform and defense reform, continues in the defense reform at the end of the day. future,
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Among them, President Moon Jae-in announced his position through the intermediary of Kim's spokesman regarding martial law documents. Professor Bae, I think the essence of martial documents is to clarify the facts and explain why these martial documents were created at that time and have actually tried to be executed. Thus, the need for armor reform has become greater, and I will look at the story of the story. In what sense should you accept?
[인터뷰]President Moon Jae-in made a very sincere speech. What is the essence of the problem now? Indeed, it is very important to identify the coup d'etat, whether or not there has been a specific preparation. I have made it clear that this is not the nature of the near miss at the Department of National Defense. And the other is that the need to reform the army is greater, when we talk about this, we see Moon Jae-in, the current situation at the Ministry of Defense,
So, it is interpreted as authorizing Song Young-moo to the Minister of Defense, but in the end, I will be responsible for that exactly after receiving TF's report. Depending on the severity, what is said is that Minister of National Defense Song Yeong-moon can never be released from the current DoD situation. However, the current position of President Moon Jae-in should be reformed, and it seems that it is feared that if the Minister of Defense of Song Hyung-moo is immediately defeated in this situation, the power of the reform of the defense will not be lost.
The Minister of National Defense, Mr. Song Young-moo, Secretary of Defense For the first time, I was a member of the Navy for the first time in the Navy for the reform of the Ministry of National Defense National Defense.
Anchor
There was a question from the press about the possibility of the defense minister, Song Young-moon, but he told me that he would conduct a thorough investigation and would appear to avoid the answer. . How do you expect?
[인터뷰]But now President Moon Jae – talked about the essence. The essence of martial documents is who has the will to execute it and who is really ready to do it. In addition to this, we need to clarify the truth about the Song Yeong-moo controversy. And if I can ask for responsibility, I will ask … For this reason, when I see Mr. Moon Jae-in, I think that the follow-up of the president in this process is not enough or that martial law and martial law are not so different. Qualifications, qualities of minister. Could this be a problem for these things? So, as Professor Bae said, it is true that Minister Song has a great commitment to military reform and military reform
. But there is so much noise in the process. I do not think it's easy to continue, even if there are qualifications, no matter what reforms are needed, from the point of view of President Roh and President Moon Jae-in. And it is also important that it be a martial law document, and I can not say that Song actually answered this martial law properly.
Anchor
I think we should ask that in the end. The Supreme Court did not disclose the documents related to what is called the Law Enforcement Law. Some of the 410 were open to the public and 228 of them were not open to the public. What are the contents? It is expected that the wavelength is large enough.
[인터뷰]It was not revealed. I did not disclose it. But is not there a huge wave on the first of the 410 exits? There is such a suspicion that judges inspect the content. And there is such a hint that I made a case with the lawsuit again. And there are suspicions that they have been lobbying for the media, so it is already the case that the wave of the wave is serious and even though it is the old vice -Min Jong-heon's minister, he is seized now.
If this happens again, I think that there will be an extraordinary wave on my list and that the fact that I have confiscated the USB in connection with it. Im Jong – heon's deputy revealed that Ms. There is such suspicion that the Supreme Court intervened in the trial with respect to this part, and the other is that it is invalid to propose a successful agreement with the attorney's fees at the time. However, this part of the trial to check the president at the time, so pre-planned lawsuits are now revealed.
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When you read these documents, it seems like there will be a huge wavelength.
[인터뷰]Look at this. Why did not you release some of the 410 and 228? I think that's the answer. It appears that 228 content may contain a lot of sensitive content related to the judiciary. The story that is flowing now is the transformation of Korea, the part related to the ministry, the part related to the National Assembly, and strategies for the media, which are very likely to be very specific .
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However, I would have been able to make it public in the first place, but it is emphasized that I am reluctant to disclose it because it is leaked in the investigation process of l & # 39; accusation.
[인터뷰]You did it again at the meeting of the judges. At an extraordinary meeting. Now you have the document itself. Then another CP, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Justice Sung Tae PC, I tried to grab other things, but I reject everything. However, the document actually obtained does not even appear. So, does Chief Justice Kim Myung Soo have the will to cooperate with the truth on this? It's a question of rejecting the mandate and the other dimension related to the previous PC in such a thing, so you can see that the situation is inevitably revealed even if you do not want to disclose this part.
Anchor
Good. Until now, I was a professor at Kwangsam Kim and Professor Bae Jong Ho at Se-Han University. Thanks to you two.
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