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Two online provocateurs from Canada sparked a debate on freedom of expression and hate speech here without ever setting foot in the country or saying anything meaningful about New Zealand.
Photo: Sharkhats / Flickr
This week, Auckland Mayor Phil Goff supported a bold but controversial idea for Auckland – a sculpture described as a local version of Statue of Liberty.
But last weekend Phil Goff received frank questions from the media about the kind of freedoms he was willing to allow in his city.
He also supported the decision not to allow Canadian new media provocateurs Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux to speak in a Takapuna-style theater
This was to be part of their Australasian tour to publicize what was going on. 39 they view as immigration and multiculturalism and harm what they regard as Western civilizations.
Lauren Southern told Australian News Corp columnist Miranda Devine that the New Zealand government was trying to obstruct them, although their visas were approved on Friday and it was only the Auckland Council. But, without saying a word more about New Zealand, they had a lot of visibility in our media.
The Dominion Post called the couple "provocative in search of a reaction to justify their victim claim."
On TVNZ 1 Q + A Host Corin Dann stated that Phil Goff had amplified the grievances of Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux by pulling the plug at home
The Magazine [19459014Thisweek'sListener presented views on the line between hate speech and ten-page freedom of expression. The listener followed with a few others in next week's edition – all about the laws that other countries have to deal with the issue.
The Free Speech Coalition – a hastily formed group that raised $ 50,000 in a little more day – created even more titles.
The group's QC filed an application for judicial review to challenge the decision of the Auckland Board and attempt to set a precedent for free public spaces for freedom of expression
He would defend the right of Canadians to make their point of view known, even if he did not know exactly what those opinions were.
When Guyon Espiner told him of Stefan Molyneux's views on ethnicity and intelligence, Dr. Brash agreed with them, but conceded that he actually supported the right to Molyneux to be racist here in New Zealand because he was close to an "absolutist" on the freedom of expression.
Success and ethnicity are topics on which Dr. Brash has already made public.
"Some racial groups – for genetic or cultural reasons – seem to be much more successful than other groups" autobiography Incredible luck.
In the book he said that he did not know if the genetic advantage was playing or not a part. In the end, he wrote, "Only the results really matter."
With this in mind, it seems odd Dr. Brash has put all his weight behind a campaign to allow someone to express his opinions as being racist, but shows no interest in knowing why.
Lauren Southern was a big news in northern Queensland where she made the first appearance of her controversial tour.
Photo: screenshot
Next to Dr. Brash on the Free Speech Coalition was a veteran voice of the left politician, Chris Trotter, who suggested an alternative platform for visitors.
"Imagine if the Q + One program had set aside an entire hour for a televised debate between Molyneux and Southern, representing Alt-Right, and two representatives of the New Zealand left, Annette Sykes and John Minto, come to mind, "he writes on his blog. "For 60 minutes, New Zealanders could have debated ideas and causes that are currently at the root of global politics," he said.
In interviews or media articles that Mediawatch could find online about Canadians under surveillance, they did not explain what Chris Trotter called "the ideas and causes that currently drive world politics."
set up one of his "public assemblies" to which a large sample of Kiwis could have asked questions to the two right-wing provocateurs, "added Chris Trotter
. This would go further than accommodating their freedom of expression. rights. He would favor their point of view on a level that no one else has known on television here for years – unless elected on
The The Project ] on Three last week Chris Trotter acknowledged that freedom of expression had limits. When he was told that Lauren Southern had actively prevented the sea rescue of migrants in Italy, he was not sure that it was true.
In the Timaru Herald, columnist Grant Shimmin has had no trouble discovering it
"I just watched on YouTube a recording of a live stream of Southern while I'm watching. she and some right-wing European activists were trying – using flares -, "he writes
Grant Shimmin went on to point out New Zealanders who really want to hear the opinions of Southern and Molyneux who can easily do so. line or else in public, if the pair enters another room and makes the trip from Australia now they have their visas.
Friday this week, The New Zealand Herald supported Phil Goff
"From nowadays all points of view can be found But they do not all have the right to take their place on other platforms that try to serve the public interest. "The Herald compared the position of the Mayor of Auckland with that of a newspaper editor
Both must give a fair hearing to people before excluding them from public rooms or newspaper pages. after reasonable and reasonable research.
But for the news media – said the editorial of the Herald – the divergent points of view presented must be interesting .
Monday Lauren Southern gave a speech to Young Conservatories North Queensland in Cairns – where the local News Ltd newspaper reported it daily since she arrived in the city.
But there was no report from this event in the newspaper – or elsewhere
.
"We are concerned about the maintenance of our free culture, the LGBTIQ war on the gender of children and the prices of electricity," said MC of the event the candidate of the Australian Conservative Party Lyl. e Shelton – on his Facebook page
The take of North America on Queensland's energy prices seems to have gone unnoticed – and the photos on Twitter show only a modest crowd and plenty of seats empty.
Lauren Southern's first engagement in Australia was little attended despite significant media coverage in advance.
Photo: Twitter
After Friday's engagement in Melbourne, disrupted by protests, nothing said on stage announced that night or the newspapers the next day
Annabel Hennessy Sydney Daily Telegraph said that interviewing Lauren Southern was "a waste of time"
"Just as there are people we can not talk to, there are some who can not be interviewed "she wrote
" I spent 13 minutes interviewing Southern on the phone and it was a sterile task, because all his rhetoric is designed to create a reaction rather than a reaction. " examine individual problems. "
Media talent or not is not a problem for those who defend its rights to freedom of expression here.
It seems that the fact that a local politician had his say – so the availability of favorite locals was more important to them then Laura Southern or Ste The fan ideas Molyneux – or the backdrop of An international cultural war.
But since the Australian and Australian media have talked a lot more about it before they arrive and talk, Canadian provocateurs probably do not care.
Laura Southern and Stefan Molyneux probably know in the end that it is not the policies of local authorities that are likely to stifle the spread of their ideas
. audience that is not already subscribed to their opinions – or to their YouTube channel.
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