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Antonio Palocci, a former Portuguese government minister, testified as part of the Zelotes operation and said that former president Lula had favored automakers in return for a tip for his son Luís Cláudio.
This was the first time that former Minister Antonio Palocci testified as part of this process, and the first time also under house arrest, after becoming an informant. Palocci was heard by video conference in São Paulo as a witness in court, by the deputy judge Ricardo Leite, of the 10th Federal District Court.
Former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is accused of receiving bribes in exchange for the adoption of an interim measure in favor of companies in the industry. automobile.
According to investigations by the Zelotes operation, MP 471 published in 2009 by Lula, extended the tax benefits to car manufacturers in the North, Northeast and Midwest regions, who had access to the text of the MP before their approval.
The Federal Public Prosecutor's Office states that in return, the recipient companies paid bribes to middlemen and that Lula and his chief of staff at the time, Gilberto Carvalho, accepted the pot. $ 6 million proposed for the MP edition.
Investigations indicate that one of the intermediaries is the lobbyist Mauro Marcondes, who is also the defendant. He would make the link between the car manufacturers and Lula.
In the testimony of this fifth, Palocci stated that he had heard Lula himself provide information on the payment of the approval of the interim measure.
"I do not deal with what I heard, I'm busy with things that former President Lula said I did," Palocci said. [19659009AtthemeetingaccordingtoPaloccitherewereonlytwoofthem:PalocciwasquestionedaboutitbyLula'sdefense
"You referred to a conversation that you think happened to the former President Lula, who would have managed this MP 471. Who else was present in this conversation? "asked the lawyer Cristiano Zanin.
" Only me and President Lula ", replied Palocci.
" You have no witnesses who can say that you have witnessed what has been said? ", continued the lawyer.
" No ", said Palocci.
Although the action only concerns the edition of MP 471, Palocci also referred to a second interim measure, which renewed the benefits for car manufacturers. 7 was published by the Dilma Rousseff government in 2013.
Palocci stated that, in this case, the lobbyist Mauro Marcondes also paid a tip and that, at the request of Lula, who was no longer president , rose from R $ 2 million to R $ 3 million for the son of former president Luís Claudio Lula da Silva. The former minister said at the meeting that the former president had himself mingled with the case.
Former President Lula m reported exactly this way. He had dealt with former President Dilma and the former head of the Civil House MP 627 case, which was the renewal of 471 benefits. I asked: "Why are you you enter this case? " Is not it inappropriate for you to address this issue? He said: "Listen, because it was a problem with my son, I did not want to involve anyone, I used Marcos Marcondes, he had already done it during the previous process." What was the previous process: 471. "
This tip payment is the subject of another lawsuit against Zelotes.
Palocci also stated that he knew of situations in which interim measures providing for bribes to members of the government and Congress were imposed.The former minister confirmed that he had handled the case under a contract to amicable with federal police.
Former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso was heard Thursday as a witness of Mauro Marcondes.He was called to speak about a law pbaded in 1997 on the tax incentives that served as a basis for the Lula government deputy.The former president said that he did not remember the details of the approval of the measure.
Lula's defense said that former minister Antonio Palocci had taken advantage of the testimony ge to make statements unrelated to the process, in order to attack the honor and reputation of the former president and son Luis Cláudio.
Also according to the defense of the former president, Palocci acknowledged that no one had attended the so-called conversations that he claimed had maintained with Lula and Luís Claudio, and that it was not There had been no witnesses from the meetings nor the content of the issues discussed. The defense stated that Palocci knew that the statements were false and that they could not be confirmed by any witness.
Luís Cláudio's defense Lula da Silva said that the values received from Marcondes and Mautoni paid for proven services in the field of sports marketing.
The opinion of Dilma Rousseff indicated that the former president was repudiating what she calls the lies of Antonio Palocci, who was detained at home and who inculcated lies. .
Gilberto Carvalho's defense stated that Palocci had not proved any charges and that he had created an impossible dialogue with former President Lula, protected by the protection of the fact that he had been killed. there were no witnesses to the conversation.
Mauro Marcondes' defense baderted that Palocci's statements only reveal his desperation at the moment and that it is necessary to prove what is being said.
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